

| Subject: | Re: Was: Why are campers higher at the rear? NOW: Westy air drag |
| From: | tmiller |
| Date: | Mon, 14 Jun 2004 19:55:23 -0400 |
I think that is a great idea. I know I could use a couple of extra MPG on the beast! Especially at $2 per gallon! TEMiller Simon Reinhardt wrote: > Yes, but what about when the load is not just behind the rear seat, and > what if a driver and passenger are going to get in? Now the fronts need > to handle a load as well! > Jeez, it's depressing, but maybe this is all boiling down to craptastic > quality control wherever Vanagon springs were made... > Anyway, I get what you're saying about load handling, but I'm saying > that a spring can be stiff w/out being tall. Take the sport springs in > the Cabby I'm selling (shameless plug!). They're lower AND stiffer than > stock, and I can still carry a full load of people and their junk. > I'm curious- did the load rating of the Van decrease when it got the > shorter Carat springs later on? Anyone know? > I've been thinking about a big piece of aluminum that would attach to > the cargo cleats. Then we have to get access to a wind tunnel... > Actually, looking at the turbulence, maybe a flat panel AND a mid-roof > spoiler would be the way to go. We just need to smooth out that > turbulence somehow! Anyone ready to rice out your Van? > > -SImon > > > On Jun 11, 2004, at 6:33 AM, Chris S. wrote: > >>> "But Simon, the rears are stiffer than the fronts because of the >>> engine's weight!"- No, stiffness and height are not necessarily >>> entwined. >> >> >> May I remind you of the Vanagon's 50/50 front-to-rear weight >> distribution? >> Yes, there's an engine back there but the total weight pressing down >> on >> the rear springs is same as the front. Rear springs are stiffer to >> handle >> more when the van is loaded. >> >>> >>> http://www.farrside.net/vanagon/windtests.jpg >>> >> >> Stock Vanagon CD (coefficient of drag): .44 >> Flat pop-top: .45 >> Westfalia pop-top: .51 <--- that sucks >> High-top: .40 >> Camper-back: .46 <---- still better than the Westfalia pop-top >> >> Based on the picture my presumptions that carrying a flat, wide load, >> such >> as a cargo box, in the top luggage would reduce turbulence thus >> decreasing >> CD. Putting a plastic lid on the rack that slightly bulges out would >> have >> an even better effect and save fuel when on the road. Project, anyone? >> Any fiberglass masters out there? >> >> >> >> >> Chris S. >> '85 Wolfsburg Westy "Camel" >> http://www.knology.net/~vw/dadada.jpg >> > >
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