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Subject:Re: Cold idle mystery
From:Kirk Hockin
Date:Fri, 18 Jun 2004 01:13:00 -0700

I've been out on a road trip through SouthWestern BC so I'm not sure if
anyone's responded to this.  Nice trip btw... Got stuck in some sand, so
I guess the Tifor is moving up on the list of must haves (especially for
those Mexican Beaches).

Anyways, I had a similar problem lately.  It turned out the Fuel
Pressure Regulator was gimped and not restricting the fuel flow.
Replaced it and voila, no problem.  'Coincidently' the fuel pump started
running quieter as well..

Kirk Hockin
'83 Westy "Ariolimax"

-----Original Message-----
From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Mike D.
Sent: June 16, 2004 4:38 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Cold idle mystery

Ok, time to put on your thinking caps.  Can anyone solve this by
sheer brain power alone?

Details:
   1985 1.9l Westy w/Auto Trans and Air Conditioning
   145k miles
   Compression fair (around 120-125 each cylinder)
   Recently replaced Digital Idle Stabilizer
   Recently replaced AFM
   Timing @ 5BTDC

Symptoms:

When warm runs fine.  Get 17-18mpg on the highway @ 65mph, so I don't
think there is any gross mechanical problem with the engine or
mis-tuning.

When cold (60F), it starts right up, but quickly (either immediately,
or within a minute or two) the idle is rough and the engine will die
when in Drive, and sometimes even when in Neutral.   I have to keep
one foot lightly on the accelerator to keep it from stalling.  Within
about 10 minutes of driving, the problem goes away.

I've tried setting the idle higher when cold (with a few turns of the
idle adjustment screw).  This solves the stalling problem when cold,
but then when the van is warm, the idle is way too high (1500+ rpm).

I've gone through the Bently and done most of the electrical digijet
diagnostics  (resistances of temp senders when cold and hot, etc.)
without finding anything amiss.

Ideas?