I do use Jiffy for oil changes right now because I lack a suitable
place of my own

     to do the job.  that being said - they know nothing about vanagons and
you have to watch them the

     whole time.   I bring my own oil filters.

    Last time :   they filled the engine with 10w-30 despite my
instructions.

     They were quite perturbed that i insist they drain the engine again and
refill it. [ i watched]

     They made a point of saying my drain plug was chewed up [??]

     [ I just installed the new drain plug myself 1000 miles before on the
new rebuild ]

    the service man made a point to tell me he could not find the windshield
wiper fluid refill

     but did say he checked the brake fluid level despite the fact I knew he
could not find that either!

    But until I have a garage to do it myself I will keep using  [ and
watching ] Jiffylube....

    Tom

        >-----Original Message-----
        >From: Fin Beven <FinBeven@MSN.COM>
        >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
        >Sent: Mon, 21 Jun 2004 12:02:15 -0700
        >Subject: JiffyLube, extras
        >
        >
        >Full confession....  I have virtually no expertise when it comes to
the
        >care-and-feeding of engines.  But I do change my oil frequently.  I
bought
        >my
        >1990 just one year ago, it now has about 145,000 on the original
engine and
        >trans, and I have no record of what service it had before that
(there were
        >several owners).
        >
        >Today I was at my local Jiffy-Lube, and they offered me two
"extras":
        >
        >   1.. Flushing and re-filling the Automatic Transmission Fluid.
They
        >wanted
        >$89.99 for this.
        >   2.. "Fuel System Cleaning".  They were to put some sort of
additive into
        >the
        >gas-tank, then open up one of the vacuum tubes and drain some sort
of
        >cleaning
        >fluid into the system.  They wanted $59.99 for this.
        >My impression is that shops like this use the oil change as the
inducement
        >to
        >get you into the shop, then "get you" with the extras.
        >
        >Does anyone have an opinion as to whether either of these processes
are
        >necessary, and if so, how often they should be done.
        >
        >Thanks,
        >
        >Fin Beven
        >1990 Carat, Custom Camper Conversion
        >Pasadena, CA

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