

| Subject: | Re: Running rich, O2 sensor says lean, exhaust leak? |
| From: | Craig Oda |
| Date: | Tue, 13 Jul 2004 23:00:47 -0700 |
Bob, You and the vanagon people on this list are awesome. I think that my 2nd O2 sensor got clogged up due to all that soot in the exhaust. After driving for a while without the O2 sensor connected, I bought a new one from Kragen. Cheap, only $30, low cost especially considering the gas I burned through this weekend. I did a test drive tonight and I got over 18 mpg, up from 5 mpg this weekend. Yay!!! I also cleaned all the grounds on my cylinder head and added a new ground cable from the coil bracket bolt to the cylinder head on the driver's side. I changed the oil. It was black. Should I run a bottle of fuel-injection cleaner through the gas system to help that soot get out? Thanks to everyone that helped me with this problem. I was getting anxious because I am planning to take the family to the lake this weekend in the van, about a 300 mile drive each way. On Tue, 13 Jul 2004 22:30:18 -0400, ROBERT DONALDS <donalds1@verizon.net> wrote: > Craig > once the exhaust is sooted up you need disconnect the oxy sensor and drive > the van or it just fouls out one sensor o2 after another. You said the van > runs fine without the sensor connected. So with this thought in mind you > dont need the o2 sensor to drive the van. give the exhaust a chance to clear > out say 200 miles and reconnect the o2 sensor > in the mean time change the oil its full of fuel and keep a close eye on the > milage if it does not go way up you still have a problem. > let me know > > Bob Donalds > Boston Engine > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Craig Oda" <craigoda@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Tuesday, July 13, 2004 1:38 PM > Subject: Running rich, O2 sensor says lean, exhaust leak? > > > This past weekend I averaged 5 mpg and there was a lot of unburned > > fuel coming out of the exhaust. I've got a voltmeter hooked up to the > > O2 sensor and the voltage was measuring consistently lean, despite the > > obvious signs of the engine running rich, such as gas smell and black > > smoke, not to mention high fuel consumption. There was also > > drivability problems, including loss of power and some surging. > > > > This morning I disconnected the O2 sensor before I went to work. The > > engine drove much better. I'm now thinking that there is an exhaust > > leak that is causing air to leak into the system and causing the O2 > > sensor to read the air-fuel mixture incorrectly. Although this seems > > counter-intuitive since the exhaust is presumably under pressure in > > the system and pushing out of the back, I've heard of a process called > > exhaust scavenging where an exhaust pulse pulls exhaust through the > > system. Each high pressure exhaust pulse travelling through the > > system results in a bit of pull > > > > I obviously want to reconnect my O2 sensor. Before I take off the > > exhaust system and change the exhaust gaskets, is there anything else > > I can check? > > > > Stuff I've done in the past week: > > - changed O2 sensor > > - changed fuel pressure regulator, fuel pump, fuel filter > > - took apart entire air intake system, changed the air intake > > distributor box, and most rubber hoses. > > - changed temp sensor II > > - adjusted valves > > - looked for exhaust leaks under the van, but couldn't find any > > obvious ones. I haven't taken the system off for inspection.... yet. > > > > Also, my exhaust system has a dent in it right after the O2 sensor. > > Could this be causing a problem with the exhaust flow? > > > > I have a spare exhaust system and a newish auxiliary air regulator > > that I can swap in for a test. Right now, I think it is air leaks > > into the system or maybe that dent. > > > > Any advice before I crawl around under the van and get dirt falling in > > my face, hair and eyes? > > > > -- Craig > > > >
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