On Jul 21, 2004, at 9:18 AM, Russell Patten wrote:

>   I don't care too much for a toilet.  I can urinate by opening the 
> driver
> door and I don't have a problem going into whatever store I'm parked 
> outside
> to crap.  What I really miss is a shower.
>   But I'm stumped as to how you could rig up a drainage system w/ 
> privacy
> curtains.

I've thought about this (actually have bought the materials but haven't 
otherwise started the project).

What about mounting a magnetically-attached curtain to the open hatch 
(magnet strips), and have whatever kind of flooring you want. You'd 
have to carefully cut the curtain to fit, and hem it probably, but it 
seems to me that you could weight the bottom (or even stake it at the 
corners) and have a nice room for a shower. You'd have to have a flap 
to prevent getting the rear mattress wet. If your seams were managed 
well enough, heat from the camper could get to the shower. You'd be 
able to get between the shower stall and the camper by pushing aside 
the aforementioned flap, so you wouldn't have to go outside to get to 
the shower.

Might not be a bad spot for the portapotty, either.

This scheme does not address the issue of wastewater runoff, because I 
assumed (for myself) that if public baths were available, we would use 
them, and if not, no one would be around to care about the runoff. I 
didn't consider trying to live in it. If it really was a problem, the 
old standard of taking a shower/bath in a bucket (or a kid's pool) 
would allow you to capture the water and deal with it later, even 
reversing the shower pump since you won't be drinking out of the 
system.

Jim

>
>> The Westy's awesome! I can't think of anything I'd change on mine. The
>> lack of toilet is probably a design decision, based on size.
>> I think the thread has more to do with Vanagon problems. Honestly, the
>> only complaint I have about my van (after ditching the wbx, of 
>> course),
>> is about the flimsy bumpers. Yeah, the thing is slow, but actually it
>> wasn't so bad back when we had a double-nickel speed limit... which is
>> when they were sold...
>>
>> -Simon
>>
>>
>> On Jul 20, 2004, at 9:39 AM, gary hradek wrote:
>>
>>> I think before you start listing the worst designs of
>>> the westy you consider what you would replace it with
>>> as an alternative.
>> <big ol' clip>
>
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