David:

100km/hr is only 60 MPH!
TEMiller

----- Original Message -----
From: "David Marshall" <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, July 25, 2004 10:22 PM
Subject: Re: 3.3 verses 4.3 verses 1.9???

> The TDI redlines at something like 4400 or 4500 RPM - really it doesn't
make
> much power past 3900 RPM.
>
> 70 MPH is the real top speed of a TDI with stock tires.  The choices are,
if
> you want to go that fast for hours on end is to install larger tires
> something like 27 to 28" tall - each inch larger in diameter is about a
100
> RPM drop at 60 MPH or change the gearing.  In manual transmission Vanagons
I
> know that changing the gearing is possible but in automatics, I have no
> idea.  Going with something like 215/75R15 or 225/75R15 will achieve the
> results you are looking for and you won't run into tire fitment or supply
> issues with this size.
>
> My friend in Germany with a Syncro 16 has a TDI - he runs all day at 3800
to
> 4000 RPM - and he doing 100km/h!  The only mods to the motor is an
external
> oil cooler and he changes it every 5000km instead of 10000km.  He's been
> like this for about 2 years now and the motor is still running strong.
>
> David Marshall
>
> Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
> 4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road
> Quesnel BC Canada  V2J 6Z3
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of Robert Campbell
> Sent: July 25, 2004 6:28 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: 3.3 verses 4.3 verses 1.9???
>
>
> David,
> I read all your TDI info with great interest... BUT, I think it states
that
> you don't want to run your TDI over (or is it "at") 4000 (or more) RPM for
> long periods of time....  I cruise at around 70 miles per hour on my trips
> and when on the highway.  That's 4000-4200 RPM in my automatic '91 Carat.
I
> assume that the result of running at high RPM is a blown motor.
> I love the idea of better fuel economy, but I don't want to worry about
> blowing the motor -- any ideas or advice?  (please skip the obvious "slow
> down" response :-)
> Thanks!
>     -Robert
> -----Original Message-----
> From: David Marshall <vanagon@VOLKSWAGEN.ORG>
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Sent: Sun, 25 Jul 2004 14:29:12 -0700
> Subject: Re: 3.3 verses 4.3 verses 1.9???
>
>
> My I make a suggestion?  1.9L TDI - Using an ALH TDI from a 1999 - 2003
Golf
> / Jetta.
>
> GROUND AND ENGINE COVER CLEARANCE:
> You loose no ground clearance.  Syncro skid plate goes back in stock
> location with no welding or shims.  Engine cover does have to be modified
> about 2.5" - the ALH is a shallower motor than the old AHU from 1995 to
> 1998 - the AHU required about 3.5" to 4.0" assuming you down shim the
engine
> lower in the engine bay at the expense of ground clearance.
>
> STOCK POWER:
> For get horse power, this is what sell vehicles but this isn't really what
> you drive your heavy Vanagon with.  The TDI does have more useable
> horsepower than any stock motor in the Vanagon.  See
> http://www.fastforward.ca/VanagonSwap/AHU/ahu.jpg for a torque and power
> chart of the TDI vs the wasserboxer engines.  It doesn't have horse power
> than the GM or Subi motor but the acceleration is still much better than
any
> stock Vanagon motor.  Torque is what you want to look at.  The TDI makes
> full a 155ft.lbs of torque at 1900 RPM and it doesn't stop pulling until
> about 3800 RPM.  When you look at the Vanagon tachometer, you see that
this
> is the green area, which is where you Vanagon gearing is designed to run.
> Upgrading your fuel injectors to the European 0.205mm injectors ($500
> Canadian / $375 USD) and installing an inexpensive tweak to the injector
> pump wiring you will now have 120hp and 230ft.lbs of torque as people have
> posted at http://www.tdiclub.com
>
> ECONOMY:
> The TDI is cheap to drive.  I can now travel about 600km on a tank of
Diesel
> and the fuel is at least 25% cheaper than gasoline assuming that you use
87
> octane.  This is with the modified TDI in the back of my Syncro.  Before
the
> conversion I could only get 450km.  That means 1.5h more between fillups.
> In short, you can drive almost twice as far per dollar on Diesel as you
can
> with [premium] gasoline.  I did a complete TCO (Total Cost of Ownership)
for
> the TDI engine using published VW maintenance schedules - see
> http://www.fastforward.ca/VanagonConversion/TDI%20Conversion%20FAQ.pdf for
> the costs involved in owning a TDI and other tid-bits of information.
>
> INSTALLATION:
> Installing a TDI is not any more complicated than install a Subaru engine,
> infact, I think it is easier as the wiring is a lot less complicated and
> there is a complete plug and play conversion kit available for it.  With
our
> complete conversion kit at http://www.fastforward.ca/VanagonConversion you
> can install a TDI in about 20h start to finish with no fabrication of
parts
> other than a box for your engine cover - any sheet metal shop can do that
> for about $40.
>
> LONGEVITY:
> I think for long term longevity the jury is still out.  The VW dealership
in
> Prince George has a few TDI customers with 400.000+ kms on their motor
with
> no issues at all.  To me, this is pretty good.  I have a Turbo Diesel Golf
> with 690.000km on it and it is still going - consuming 1L / 1000km of oil,
> but hey, it DOES have 690.000km on it - I'm not complaining!
>
> I know I will never purposely install a gasoline engine into a Vanagon
now,
> not with today's unstable fuel pricing and pressures that we are putting
on
> this earth from the green house gases we produce with our gasoline
engines.
> Most people who get TD and TDI kits from us are doing it so they can run
> BioDiesel or Straight Veggie Oil - which is GHG neutral and when running
> Veggie Oil it is significantly cheaper than Diesel fuel - that of course
is
> another subject to be discussed at a different time.
>
> David Marshall
>
> Fast Forward Automotive Inc.
> 4356 Quesnel-Hixon Road
> Quesnel BC Canada  V2J 6Z3
>
> http://www.fastforward.ca    mailto:sales@fastforward.ca
> Phone: (250) 992 7775        FAX: (250) 992 1160
>
> - Vanagon Accessories and Engine Conversions
> - Vanagon, Transporter and Iltis Sales and Importation
> - European Lighting for most Volkswagen models
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com]On Behalf
> Of John Carpenter
> Sent: July 24, 2004 12:02 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: 3.3 verses 4.3 ???
>
>
> Hi All,
> Has anyone installed a
> GM 4.3 Vortec Engine into their Bus?
> What type of clearance do you have,
> top and bottom?
> What problems did you have with the installation?
> Also, Does anyone have any thoughts on the 4.3 Compared to the 3.3 as far
as
> our application?
> Torque, HP, ease of installation, costs, longevity?
> thanks,
> John C...verses
>
>
> Subaru SVX:
> Engine Specifications:
> 3.3 Liter 6 cylinder 24 valve DOHC Boxer engine.
> 230 horsepower @ 5400 rpm
> Torque: 228 @ 4400 rpm
> Sequential Multiport fuel injection with dual spray injectors
> Platinum-tipped spark plugs
> Computerized management system with "Limp Home feature," incl. over-rev
> protection, monitors fuel injection and ignition.
>
>
> Vortec 4300 4.3L V-6 Specifications
>
> Displacement: 4300cc
>  Assembly Site: Romulus, Michigan
>  Horsepower: 190-195 hp @ 4400-4600 rpm
>  Torque: 250-260 lb-ft @ 2800 rpm
>  Applications: GMC Sierra/Chevrolet Silverado
>                        Chevrolet  S-10/GMC Sonoma
>                        GMC Safari/Savanna
>                        Chevrolet Astro/Express
>