

| Subject: | Vanagon junk yards in Portland OR |
| From: | The Shaws |
| Date: | Sat, 31 Jul 2004 13:06:12 -0700 |
I am planning a trip to the portland area and was wondering what are the best vanagon junk yards? I would especially like the pull and save type but not limited to those. I need lots of little things :-) I saw a site with lots listed but I can not find it... peter ----- Original Message ----- From: "Steve Delanty" <laurasdog@WEIRDSTUFFWEMAKE.COM> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, July 26, 2004 2:22 PM Subject: Re: [subaruvanagon] Re: 3.3 verses 4.3 verses 1.9??? > At 01:07 PM 7/26/2004, The Shaws wrote: > > >"Torque is what pushes the vanagon up a hill". Assuming we are traveling at > >70 mph (washington state speed limit on highway 90) and hit the eastside of > >the cascades. I would like to continue going 70. Assuming standard gearing > >and standard 14" wheels what rpm's would I be doing in with each engine? > > About 3890 RPM at 70mph with stock gears and tires. You're already WAY > past the 1.9L AHU torque peak. It ran out of breath long ago. > > At 3900 RPM subie 2.2 is making 15 ft lbs more torque and still 500 RPM below > it's torque peak peak. > > Want more still? Down shift to 3rd.Now you're turning 5390 RPM. You're sitting > right on top of the 2.2L HP peak with about 125 Ft lbs of torque, multiplied > times the 3rd gear ratio. Spinning it? Sure. But you're still -1100 RPM below- > the subaru redline, and it's quiet, smooth and more than willing to accelerate > you past that diesel that's been going 45 MPH in front of you all the way up > the hill. > > > The big increase in torque at higher rpm's in > >all 2.2 from 4000 to 6000 rpms. > > I find that it's a VERY rewarding spot for more torque in the vanagon. > The upper RPM range is what's severely lacking with the WBX. > That's why it's so hard to keep 70 mph underfoot in the hills with > the WBX. Sure it's easy to go 50 with the WBX. That's where it's > torque peak is.... > > >So how much driving will you do at 4000+ rpms? > > Every time I accelerate onto the freeway. > Anytime I'm on I-5 > When I want to pass something stinky. > When I'm on a steep hill with a load of camping gear and > need 3rd gear to keep moving at 65-70 MPH. > Engine redline of 6500 RPM equates to over 84 MPH in 3rd > gear. > > >I guess my question is what do I get with more low end torque? Faster "off > >the line"? > > Yes, better launching off the line, better low speed acceleration. > Do you need more acceleration from 0-50 MPH? > > > > And what do I get for more high end torque? > > Better acceleration at freeway speed. > The ability to keep moving at freeway speed in a head wind > or up a steep hill. > The ability to use 3rd gear for excellent acceleration or hill > climbing power. > > Keep in mind where the Vanagon NEEDS more power. > At low speeds? No. At higher speeds? Most definately.. > > I find that acceleration form 0-50MPH is just fine even with a > WBX. The low speed torque and gearing make that easy enough. > It's TOP END performance that's lacking in a Vanagon. Speeds > above 60MPH is where the vanagon has a hard time. > That's where it needs more power. .. and from 3500RPM up > is where it needs more torque for decent freeway driving. > > >And if torque is the goal then seems like the 2.5 is the answer. > > Well, yeah... (-: > > > Steve > '86 Westy "Escape Pod" (EJ22) > '73 Beetle "ain't got a name yet" >
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