I may actually do that--I'm going to Chicago this weekend for
unrelated business, and I will offer to look at the van if he can show
it.  He said something earlier about not being available the day I was
going to be there--another bad sign I guess.

DB

On Mon, 9 Aug 2004 19:04:00 -0400, Bike Florida
<bikeflorida@earthlink.net> wrote:
> I would refuse to leave feedback, this at the very minimum gives you the
> safety of "eBay mutually assured self destruction". Meaning the other party
> is at least reluctant to leave you negative feedback over the issue in fear
> of receiving retaliatory feedback. If he does neg you, I would not neg him
> back, you did back out of the deal. I would just respond to his feedback.
> Keep in mind, that it cost in excess of $40.00 to run a car on eBay. I
> suppose the decent thing would be to offer to cover his listing fees.
>
> Jerry
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of
> aircooled chris
> Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 6:37 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Ebay trade gone wrong...
>
> I purchased my Vanagon westy online, having never seen it before or had
> a mechanic in their area take a look and it worked out great.
>
> A#1 reason I felt comfortable doing this:
> I spoke at length with the seller prior to purchase. You can tell quite
> a lot about what the vehicle is going to be like based on what the
> seller is like and their own knowledge of the car and what it needs.
>
> Just because you really want the car at a good price, doesnt mean you
> should ignore that gut feeling that something doesnt quite feel right.
> Just back out and keep looking.
>
> cr
>
> Jeffrey Schwaia wrote:
>
> >These are very good points, especially #5.  Talk to the seller.  Get a feel
> >for the seller's personality.  Find out what he does for a living
> >(unemployed or between jobs can be bad).
> >
> >I would also add one more to the list:
> >
> >6) Make sure you can pick up the vehicle in person.  This is your last
> >chance to confirm that the seller's description was honest.
> >
> >
> >I have also sold several vehicles on eBay and have yet to have a bad
> >experience.  The buyers were very diligent.  I had at least 3 phone
> >conversations with the prospective buyers before they bid, and all except
> >one picked up the vehicle in person.
> >
> >eBay is no different than any other marketplace, caveat emptor...
> >
> >Cheers,
> >
> >Jeff
> >www.vanagonparts.com
> >
> >
> >-----Original Message-----
> >From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf
> >Of Bruce Nadig
> >Sent: Monday, August 09, 2004 5:53 AM
> >To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >Subject: Re: Ebay trade gone wrong...
> >
> >
> >The selling of vehicles or anything else on eBay isn't in an of itself bad.
> >You just can't go into it blindly.
> >
> >1) Make sure that the seller has exceptionally good feedback
> >2) Have the Vanagon inspected by a mechanic familiar with Vanagons before
> >you bid (this is done at your expense)
> >3) Ask for and carefully inspect all repair and maintenance records
> >4) Have a CarFax history performed
> >5) Contact the seller before you bid and speak with him on the phone (most
> >should be willing to do this - it is times like this that the 2 hour drive
> >time should come out)
> >
> >I have sold nine (that I can think of) vehicles on eBay. All sales have
> gone
> >well. Everyone that has left feedback has left positive feedback (getting
> >folks to leave feedback can be like pulling teeth). If you do your homework
> >you probably won't get burned.
> >
> >It isn't eBay that is bad. When deals go wrong it is usually as much the
> >fault of the buyer for not doing his/her homework as it is the seller (for
> >whatever reason).
> >
> >eBay is a great tool when used properly.
> >
> >Cheers,
> >Bruce
> >motorbruce
> >motorbruce@hotmail.com
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >>From: Eric Zeno <vw4x4@FYI.NET>
> >>Reply-To: vw4x4@FYI.NET
> >>To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> >>Subject: Re: Ebay trade gone wrong...
> >>Date: Mon, 9 Aug 2004 07:20:00 -0400
> >>
> >>Stuff like this is why buying a car on E-bay is just foolish!  To many
> >>things
> >>that you can not inspect a head of time.   Sorry but I've warned the
> >>list about this.
> >>                                                ERic
> >>
> >>Donald Baxter wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>My Vanagon seller wrote me back:
> >>>
> >>>---------
> >>>
> >>>As for friday, everything sounds good, I dont know if I will be able
> >>>to be there for the final transaction.  My father will probably be the
> >>>one to be there, his name is Fred.  If you're driving this back to
> >>>Iowa take it a little bit slow.  Let her rest every couple of hours,
> >>>that's how Ive driven it and you should be good.  You might want to
> >>>get an oil change, the last time I changed it was about 2000 miles
> >>>ago.  How would an online account work for cutting me a check?  I
> >>>would trust it I just dont know how that works.  As soon as payment is
> >>>cleared I will send the title to you unless you would rather pick it
> >>>here with the van.
> >>>Thank you
> >>>
> >>>----------
> >>>
> >>>Does this sound as bad as I think it does?  I don't have to let my
> >>>Vanagon "rest" every two hours.  I've backed out of the trade.  Grrr.
> >>>
> >>>DB
> >>>'85 GL
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>---------------------------------------------
> >>>Donald Baxter
> >>>316 Ridgeview Avenue
> >>>University Heights, Iowa 52246
> >>>http://www.mindspring.com/~onanov
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>

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Donald Baxter
316 Ridgeview Avenue
University Heights, Iowa 52246
http://www.mindspring.com/~onanov