Man, as a climber, this is really disturbing to me.  PLEASE do not increase
the possibility of bear traffic in Camp 4 or any other camp in Yosemite for
that matter.  It's not whether you feel safe or not, it's actually not legal
to leave food in your car.  Here are some more links with decent information
on bears in Yosemite in particular.

http://www.supertopo.com/climbing/thread.html?m=41005&f=0&b=0

http://www.sierrawildbear.gov/foodstorage/yosemitetrailheads.htm

http://www.nps.gov/yose/nature/ndata_docs/wlf_foodstorage.pdf

Adios
Jeff

----Original Message Follows----
From: Jeff Gilbert <jeffnjen@JEFFNJEN.COM>
Reply-To: jeffnjen@JEFFNJEN.COM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: bears burgling for food?
Date: Wed, 18 Aug 2004 08:50:18 -0700

It is my personal opinion, at least with regards to the black bears in the
Sierra Nevada, that if you are in the van or the tent, the bears will not
bother you.  I have spent many, many nights in my tent with my food under
my head in busy bear areas in the Sierra and have never been bothered.
YMMV

Ive also left my rig full of grub while on climbs in Yosemite Valley and
have never had a problem.  Yes, if there is a bear box USE IT, but thats
not always an option.  I just make sure everything is in the cupboards and
that all the curtains are drawn.  When the bear cant see the food or
cooler, he is much less likely to break into the car.

Probably just jinxed myself...

jg

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