Re:  " When buckling up the carseats, I would shove the seats as far back and down into the bench seat as possible, placing my entire body weight into the car seat with my knee, and adjust the lap bench length so that I could *just* manage to push the seat belt buckles together to engage.  (I still have indent marks in the seat cushion from where the seats crushed the foam).  I used "H" clips on the lap belts to ensure that the tension on the belts could be maintained.  Those seats were *solid* in there, and that's what I wanted."

This is how all carseats should be installed, I am 6`2" tall and weigh about 200lbs. it takes my weight pushing down with full force to get some carseats installed properly. They, the seats, should not be able to move more then an inch side to side when secured.

Tobin, when you get to the headrest project let me know. I have been contemplating that as well, and it would make a good project for this winter when our van is tucked away in the garage dreaming of warmer days.

Mark in AK

----- Original Message -----
From: Tobin Copley <tcopley@SFU.CA>
Date: Thursday, August 19, 2004 9:42 am
Subject: Re: Shoulder Belts, Booster Seats, Infant Car Seats... Help!