

| Subject: | Re: Beetle TDI test drive (almost no vanagon content) |
| From: | Mike Miller |
| Date: | Fri, 27 Aug 2004 06:44:07 -0700 |
Unfortunately the amount they can bring in this year and for the foreseeable future is zero. Need low sulphur fuel in place and some other stuff too I think. Mike On 8/26/04 11:09 PM, "Jim Thompson" <jim@KARMANNGHIA.COM> wrote: > California is tough, but it is my understanding that California only allows > VW to bring in so many *new* TDIs of certain models to sell per model year > due to it's emissions restrictions. This based on what the local dealer > (Ventura) parts manager has said to me, but they could be wrong. > > Jim Thompson > 84 Westfalia 2.1 "Ole Putt" > oldvolkshome@earthlink.net > jim@karmannghia.com > http://www.oldvolkshome.com > *********************** > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Jeff at Vanagonparts" <jeff@VANAGONPARTS.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2004 7:51 PM > Subject: Re: Beetle TDI test drive (almost no vanagon content) > > >> Dennis, >> >> "Here in New York we can't get the TDI due to emissions." >> >> Wow, I though Cali was tough. What if you buy a used TDI out of state? >> What if someone who owns a TDI moves to NY? >> >> Cheers, >> >> Jeff >> >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM]On Behalf >> Of Dennis Haynes >> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 8:33 PM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Re: Beetle TDI test drive (almost no vanagon content) >> >> >> Yes, new cars cost money. You are looking at a premium for the New >> Beetle and for the TDI. The Golf or Jetta will cost less. Personally, I >> would go a bit more and get the German built Passat. Here in New York we >> can't get the TDI due to emissions. If you are not partial to a VW, >> consider a Hyundai Elantra. We can get them here for ~$14k loaded and >> they do 32 mpg. You can buy a lot of gas for $8k. They also have the 10 >> year 100k warranty. >> >> Dennis >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf >> Of Jeremy Speer >> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2004 10:02 AM >> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM >> Subject: Beetle TDI test drive (almost no vanagon content) >> >> Folks, >> >> So my wife and i took a 2004 TDI beetle for a test drive yesterday. >> There's a big move looming for us that will almost certainly involve >> commuting, so i'm in the market for a good high fuel milage car, hence >> the TDI test drive. Yes, i've driven a first-gen Prius and i'm >> interested, but there's a full year wait list and the level of >> technology in that car is daunting... it's not something you want to >> drive to Alaska just yet. >> >> The last time i drove a VW diesel it was in college in '82... a >> friend's Rabbit L diesel. Great car, ran and ran and ran on one tank, >> plus it had this nifty James Bond smokescreen effect if you needed to >> confuse a bad guy during a getaway. Well, the new turbo diesels are a >> whole new animal. It does have turbo lag (maybe it's a diesel thing), >> but wind it up a bit and it's got scoot. The car is quite the amalgam: >> engine's made in Poland, transmission (manual 5) is from Argentina, >> balance is assembled in Mexico from parts made all over the place. In >> contrast the Passat is nearly 100% German. >> >> 2004 Beetle GLS TDI (non convertible, no leather), out-the-door price: >> $22,413. I'm sorry, but that seems like an awful lot of money. Granted >> it's less than half what the Touaregs are going for (50 to 54,000), but >> i'm still choking. I'm not getting any dealer installed options... so >> is there wiggle room on that price? Am i now supposed to haggle? >> >> I paid $10,000 for my Westy... and i've probably put $3500 into it >> since.... but i can LIVE in my Westy. >> >> Do i simply need to "get over it, new cars cost money." >> >> Used TDI beetles are very hard to find, suggesting they last and people >> keep them. Jetta wagon TDI's are scarce here in Minnesota. >> >> Anybody care to share some wisdom? >> >> Thanks, >> >> -jspeer >> '89 Westy GL, "Mystery Machine" >> '00 Victory Sport Cruiser <-- for sale! > >
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