But Vince, how many cars isn�t there with "high preformance" exhausts out
there?
Not to mention LOUD bikes !
All bought to "gain up to 12hp" and to give an impression that you have a
really souped up machine at the redlights
The problem with a Vanagon is that you probably don�t hear that nice engine
sound which makes it a bad investment OR - this is even worse - you end up
cursing that loud pipe whenever you go away on holliday and spend the first
two days after arrival trying to get back to normal hearing status ;-)

Seriously though - headers and low backpressure exhaust systems are mostly
designed for a hi-rpm power peak and might cut the low end torque back a bit
which is probably not what you aim for in a Vanagon

Calle

From: "Vince S"

> I am sure this is going to catch a lot of flame so I have my flame
> retardant suit on. :-)
>
> It seems ill advise for someone asking how to save some money to
> consider a high flow exhaust. Unless you have a modified engine at what
> RPM do you plan to drive your Vanagon that warrants a high flow exhaust?
> 6500 RPM sustain?
>
> To each their own, I am happy to keep mine under 4k. If I want to high
> performance I go and drive a real performance vehicle. :-)
>
>
>
> - Vince
>
> http://gipsyflies.home.comcast.net
> 1989 Vanagon GL Camper
> 1993 Mazda Miata (for sale)
> 1996 Land Rover Discovery
> 2005 Mini Cooper S
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Craig Oda
> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2004 10:45 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Exhaust Pipe Question
>
>
> Rich,
> instead of going with the stock muffler, have you considered a high flow
> muffler?  After reading about Goldibox and especially Robert Lilley's
> van, I've been considering a Dynaflow Super Turbo muffler.
>
> http://home.earthlink.net/~tjhannink/drivetrain.htm
>
> here's info on Robert's modifications:
> http://www.vanagonauts.com/Recipe_for_Performance110.htm
>
> I'm holding back because I am not sure that I have found the right part
> number.  Here's some examples at Jeg's High Performance
> http://www.jegs.com/cgi-bin/ncommerce3/ProductDisplay?prrfnbr=1274&prmen
> br=361
>
> They don't list the part number that is on Tom's site.
> Dynomax Super Turbo Muffler (Part # 17783)
>
> Robert also put a Monza exhaust tip resonator on.  Again, I don't know
> the part number. http://www.pacesetterexhaust.com/tips.htm
>
> if you go this route, let me know what parts you get.
>
> If anyone else reading this has installed a high-flow muffler, I would
> be curious as to what their experience was.
>
> I'm looking for improved performance and sound.  I've got to take my
> exhaust system off anyway to fix the bracket and maybe change some
> gaskets.  I just had it off last month, so it'll be easy to get the
> screws off.
>
> -- Craig
>
> On Tue, 14 Sep 2004 16:55:27 -0700, Rich Pournelle <rich@xcor.com>
> wrote:
> > I have an 87' Vanagon Westfalia and the exhaust pipes are looking
> > pretty rusty. I just got done with a cross-country drive and you can
> > hear there is some sort of exhaust leak. I think it is probably time
> > for new pipes & a muffler. One option is to buy the complete kit for
> > $469 and have it installed.
> >
> > http://www.busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=025251053GK
> >
> > Is this the best route to go or can I get a shop to bend exhaust pipes
>
> > to spec for me? My guess is this would save some money, I wanted to
> > see if anyone had gone down this route.
> >
> > Rich
> >
>