I agree - it's too off topic. I do believe this is the most important
election of my lifetime - and have a very strong opinion about it's
outcome, but I believe many of us own Vanagon's so we can escape from
the world that these politicians create. Lets not let that world invade
our digital escape as well. I mean - if people want to argue on a
friday - lets argue about whether Trey or Jerry would win in the
groove-debate...

On Oct 1, 2004, at 4:32 PM, Mark Edwards wrote:

>> oK,
>>   HOw about we limit this to one week.  I'm voting for Kerry  because
>> of
>> what has happened to the logging in upper part of PA.....
>
> I would vote that we ban such topics completely, just like we did with
> guns. There is no way to reign it in, no way it would ever not spill
> over
> into a second, third, and more days. In fact, I would rather see
> firearms
> talk going around, rather than having to put up with everyone's rant
> about
> who hates who more, and who they think will be honest and can "fix
> America" in four years all by themself. Its a stupid topic, its
> inflammatory, and I can only speak for myself, but I don't appreciate
> having put forth so much effort in NOT responding and stating my own
> views, which would avail all of us absolutely nothing.
>
> Some of us are like alchoholics on subjects like this, and its not
> easy to
> stay 'sober' when someone pours a drink all over us. :-)
>
> It especially irritates me because just as in the NFL and the NBA, the
> instigator is hardly ever called for a penalty or a foul, its the
> person
> who "fights back" that gets the brunt of the grief from everyone else
> here
> if one chooses to express an opposing POV.
>
> I don't think it has any place in a forum such as this, and it ought
> not
> be tolerated. As much as I don't like to burden  others, this is
> exactly
> what a moderator or list owner is for, so either Jim, or whomever he
> designates in his absence, has to speak up, or it will become open
> season.
> Surely the next month is not going to trigger a lot of emotions and
> attitudes. There are plenty of lists and groups where one can go to
> scream
> day and night along with others who seem to have the time to do so.
>
> Can we really afford to have our archives filled with rhetoric,
> flames, OT
> opinions, and the drivel that always results from someone dropping the
> political bomb on us?
>
> I won't expand on who I will vote for and why, but I can say that I
> would
> vote to put politics off the Vanagon list.
>
> Mark.
>
> One of the many "dumb-ass consumers"
>