Alistair,

I do smoke tests whenever I go campin' but I've never checked where it ends
up!

(I mean frying steaks of course, don't let all that Amsterdam nonsense fool
ya)

Robin :-)
'88 Westy Joker TD
'03 R1150GS

----- Original Message -----
From: "Alistair Bell" <albell@uvic.ca>
To: "Robin Oomkes" <roomkes@ZONNET.NL>
Cc: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 6:58 PM
Subject: Re: noise reduction

> Robin,
>
> I am stumped! I agree how does the door vent vent of the air can't get
> pulled out of the front edge?
>
> Maybe its time to to some sort of smoke test?
>
> Alistair
>
>
>
> On 21-Oct-04, at 9:50 AM, Robin Oomkes wrote:
>
>> Hmm. On my '88 European full Westy (with plastic 'double glazing'), I do
>> have the additional weather stripping at the leading edge of the doors,
>> but
>> I don't have the rear window vents. I do have the door vents though, that
>> seem to work just like on older vans.
>>
>> My previous '90 Westy (called Atlantic) did have extra vents in the
>> plastic
>> rear windows, and there the door vents didn't do much.
>>
>> So how do the door vents on my '88 work, if they don't vent to the front
>> of
>> the doors?
>>
>> Confused,
>>
>> Robin
>> '88 Westy Joker TD
>> '03 R1150GS
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Alistair Bell" <albell@UVIC.CA>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Thursday, October 21, 2004 4:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: noise reduction
>>
>>
>>> The additional weather stripping in the later model vanagons "fills" in
>>> the leading edge door gap. The earlier vans used that gap to create the
>>> low pressure are to draw air out of the vents in the door. I can
>>> believe that this is source of wind noise.
>>>
>>> So the additional door weather stripping and the rear side window flow
>>> through vents go hand in hand.
>>>
>>> Alistair
>>>
>>> '82 westy, diesel converted to gas in '94
>>>
>>> http://www.members.shaw.ca/albell/
>>>
>>> On 21-Oct-04, at 1:29 AM, Al and Sue Brase wrote:
>>>
>>>> Actually, the door weather strip is the same; it's just that there is
>>>> also an auxiliary wetherstrip as well. I've checked on it at the dealer
>>>> and it's not too bad. seems like about $40 each.  I'm not sure what it
>>>> takes to install, but I should find out. All of my earlier Vanagons
>>>> could use help.
>>>> Another thing, the later Vanagons changed the interior air exhaust vent
>>>> from the rear of the front door to the rear of the rear side window.
>>>> this might reduce the noise up front.
>>>> Do all the  late European diesels have Kat's or are those just retro
>>>> fi?
>>>> A Katalysator (catalytic converter, for you Engisch sprechers out ther)
>>>> will make it a little quieter..
>>>> Al Brase
>>>>
>>
>