

| Subject: | Re: Installing a pop-top on a non-pop top EASY ??? IN ONE WEEDEND ?? |
| From: | Tom Sinclair |
| Date: | Thu, 21 Oct 2004 11:08:55 -0700 |
I converted my 86 Syncro to a Westy. I removed the roof skins and cross members from both vans by cutting out the spotwelds and where the roof is brazed at the front and rear corners. It's a bit hard to explain, but the Westy roof boxes in the curved rail that runs around the inside top of the van. You can see this on Stuart's site. I don't agree with what Stuart did though. He's cut too much structurual metal for my taste--I didn't cut any, only transferred the relatively flimsy roof skin, but the skin was installed so that the curved rails are properly boxed in for added--and factory quality--strength. I had a website for my conversion when I did it, but lost it when my old PC crashed. There are some pictures in the Yahoo group "Syncrolist" files section showing when it was painted last year. I could send some pictures now, but all you would see is a factory fresh Westy inside and out--which was the whole point. It was an enormous amount of work though and I would probably go the other way--Westy into Syncro--if I did it again, but in my case the wrecked, but otherwise immaculate 86 Westy, became available first and the Syncro was found to do the conversion. Still working on the 5 cyl Tdi conversion Tom Syncro --- Sam Walters <sam.cooks@VERIZON.NET> wrote: > Don't rush into this too quickly based on Chris' > post. There is no > doubt that what Karl and Chris did is much simpler > and therefore, much > quicker. But understand what they did and didn't > do, compared to Stuart > Black. Some people want a roof, some want a Westy > upper bunk and the > roof, while still other's want a Westy with its full > interior. > > Carefully read the web page on the "easy method" > done by Karl Bloss and > Chris and the linked page where the van is offered > for sale - it has no > bed, just a pop top. One of the main reasons people > do it the harder > way is to get the bed. Others who have the bed say > they rarely use it > except as a storage space when camped and using the > Westy interior. > > The foundation for the Westy upper bed is an > integral part of the Westy > top - which is not the same as the top of a regular > vanagon with a hole > cut into it. The Westy top is a flat platform for > the bed. Part of > that is a rather beefy cross bar that would provide > some significant > structural support to the van's roof. The regular > van's roof line is > curved. I haven't ever seen pictures of a bed > installed into a van > converted in the manner Karl and Chris did the job > although this poptop > addition idea gets discussed from time to time and > Chris always asserts > that it is easy, etc. They didn't do this part at > all, much less in a > weekend. > > So, if someone has done the whole job based on the > Bloss / Turner > procedure, adding a bed to the curved roof, please > show us some pictures. > > While I will agree that having the pop top alone is > a great addition for > camping and traveling, I primarily use the van's > poptop feature for > camping with my son when we attend astronomy > gatherings. He sleeps > upstairs and I sleep downstairs. If a couple with > no children, or a > couple who will put the children in a tent, were to > add the poptop this > way, then the absence of the bed wouldn't be a big > deal. > > However, I do have some concern for the structural > integrity of a > regular roof which has had such a large hole cut > into it and no bracing > added. > > I am not saying not to do this, just be sure about > what you want. I > have considered it for several years and read all I > see about it. Just > understand the whole job and what it will take in > time before you jump in. > > -- > Sam Walters > Baltimore, MD > > 89 Syncro GL > 85 Westy Weekender > > > All incoming and outgoing email scanned by > automatically updated copy of Norton AntiVirus. > ===== http://www.TomSinclair.com _______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Declare Yourself - Register online to vote today! http://vote.yahoo.com
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