Why does this subject line deserve continued discussion?
I just see the original posting in bad taste and since Joy has a WBX Vanagon
I think she'll be using that subject line many more times in her ownership
term.
Possibly she'll use the term "oh .Bleep.. here we go again" in future
postings and we'll all imediately know who posted it.

Stan Wilder
Engine Ceramics
214-352-4931
www.engineceramics.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Steven Gross" <thegrossfamily@COX.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:26 PM
Subject: Re: oh (deleted), here we go again

> Tim in Seattle wrote:
>
> > As for there not being rights - I agree there are no "rights" in the
> > constitutional sense on this list. I do, however, feel you missed
> > something that goes with privileges: responsibility. I feel this is a
> > living community, and as a member of this community I'm obligated to
> > speak out when something threatens this community. If I just ignore it
> > because I might get in trouble on the list, then I'm not living up to
> > my responsibilities and and the list is a sad community, indeed.
>
> I don't think that it's a "threat to the community" to set some minimal
> standard of discourse.  It's usually a "threat to the community" when
> each individual demands unrestrained exercise of their own self-centered
> individualism.  Being a "community" usually means sacrificing some of
> our selfishness for the common good.
>
> You're trying to make us believe that unrestrained potty talk is
> something noble, good, and necessary.
>
>
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