jimt queried:
"someone up in canada used to sell inserts for the stove tops
with the vw on them.  Anyone know if those are still available?"

That'd be Frank Condelli. I love mine. Nothing falls thru the large OEM
grates any longer. Also, when those puppies get hot you get additional heat
applied to the middle bottom of whatever cooking device you're using.

look here: http://members.aol.com/Fkc43/grill.htm

bob

----- Original Message -----
From: "jimt" <wetwesty@tactical-bus.info>
To: "Bob Stevens" <mtbiker62@HOTMAIL.COM>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 3:42 PM
Subject: Re: coffee

On 11/26/04 3:05 PM, "Bob Stevens" <mtbiker62@HOTMAIL.COM> wrote:

> I "sort-of" got that from aluminum, John. Butt, in my case it's called
> Anheizers and the aluminum trace elements came from cans.
> grinnin' bob
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "John Rodgers" <inua@CHARTER.NET>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, November 26, 2004 1:14 PM
> Subject: Re: coffee
>
>
>> There is in this world, some allusion to Alzheimers and aluminum
>> absorption being related.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> John Rodgers
>> 88 GL Driver
>>
>> Jack wrote:
>>
>>> Maggie,
>>>
>>> Just  curious.  Is your safety concern for the aluminum expresso maker
>>> because of mechanical weakness or the possible dissolving of the metal
>>> into
>>> the coffee solution?
>>>
>>> I've used a small aluminum model for backpacking without failure but
>>> can't
>>> comment on the other concern (probably way too late for me anyhow).
>>>
>>> //Jack
>>>
>>>
>>> Date sent:              Thu, 25 Nov 2004 11:07:37 -0600
>>> Send reply to:          Maggie Dew <maggie@WESTFAM.NET>
>>> From:                   Maggie Dew <maggie@WESTFAM.NET>
>>> Subject:                coffee
>>> To:                     vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> If you DO get a stove top espresso maker, be sure it is a heavy-duty
>>>> stainless steel one (like a Bialetti), not a cheap, and possibly
>>>> unsafe,
>>>> aluminum job.  I got mine on e-bay, but you have to read carefully to
>>>> see if
>>>> you are getting stainless steel.  The first one I got was defective -
>>>> got a
>>>> refund.  The second one I got was a Bialetti but they sent aluminum
>>>> instead
>>>> of stainless.  They traded it back and on the third try I got the right
>>>> one.
>>>> It works beautifully.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Maggie
>>>>
>>>> '85 Westy Vanaru "The Anne Bonney"
>>>>
>>>>

http://www.ehso.com/ehshome/alzheimers.htm

See the link and there are others.  You are actually at greater risk from
food or over the counter meds than aluminum from your cookware.

BTW according to a 1970s (since also trashed study) I am long dead from
coffee consumption and according to another trashed pre study, my diabetic
sugar levels should be off the scale everytime I eat and drink coffee.

Another BTW someone up in canada used to sell inserts for the stove tops
with the vw on them.  Anyone know if those are still available?

.......................................
jimt
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