I get these all the time... haven't sent a command/request message in dunno
when. Pretty sure I'm not on the poop list.
Any theories? Happening to anyone else?

Cya,
Robert

----- Original Message -----
From: "L-Soft list server at Vanagon List (1.8d)"
<LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:01 AM
Subject: Your message to vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM

> Fri, 3 Dec 2004 14:01:33
>
> Your message  to vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM has been  forwarded to
> the "list owners" (the people who manage the vanagon list). If you wanted
> to reach a human being, you used the correct procedure and you can ignore
> the remainder of this  message. If you were trying to  send a command for
> the computer to execute, please read on.
>
> The  vanagon list  is managed  by  a ListServ  server. ListServ  commands
> should    always    be   sent    to    the    "ListServ"   address,    ie
> LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM. ListServ never tries to process messages sent
> to the vanagon-request address; it simply forwards them to a human being,
> and acknowledges receipt with the present message.
>
> The "listname-request" convention originated on  the Internet a long time
> ago. At  the time, lists were  always managed manually, and  this address
> was defined as an alias for the  person(s) in charge of the mailing list.
> You would write to the  "listname-request" address to ask for information
> about the list, ask  to be added to the list,  make suggestions about the
> contents and policy, etc. Because this  address was always a human being,
> people  knew and  expected to  be  talking to  a  human being,  not to  a
> computer.  Unfortunately, some  recent  list  management packages  screen
> incoming  messages  to  the  "listname-request" address  and  attempt  to
> determine whether they are requests to  join or leave the list. They look
> for words such as "subscribe", "add",  "leave", "off", and so on. If they
> decide your message is  a request to join or leave  the list, they update
> the list automatically;  otherwise, they forward the message  to the list
> owners. Naturally, this means that if  you write to the list owners about
> someone else's  unsuccessful attempts to  leave the list, you  stand good
> chances of  being automatically removed  from the list, whereas  the list
> owners will never receive your message. No one really benefits from this.
> There is no  reliable mechanism to contact a human  being for assistance,
> and you can never  be sure whether your request will  be interpreted as a
> command or as a message to the list owners. This is why ListServ uses two
> separate addresses, one for the people in  charge of the list and one for
> the computer  that runs it.  This way you  always know what  will happen,
> especially if you are writing in a language other than English.
>
> In  any case,  if your  message was  a ListServ  command, you  should now
> resend it  to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM. The  list owners know  that you
> have  received this  message  and may  assume that  you  will resend  the
> command  on your  own. You  will find  instructions for  the most  common
> administrative requests below.
>
> +---------------------+
> |  TO LEAVE THE LIST  |
> +---------------------+
>
> Write to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM and, in the text of your message (not
> the subject line), write: SIGNOFF vanagon
>
> +--------------------+
> |  TO JOIN THE LIST  |
> +--------------------+
>
> Write to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM and, in the text of your message (not
> the subject line), write: SUBSCRIBE vanagon
>
> +------------------------+
> |  FOR MORE INFORMATION  |
> +------------------------+
>
> Write to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM and, in the text of your message (not
> the subject  line), write:  "HELP" or "INFO"  (without the  quotes). HELP
> will give you a  short help message and INFO a list  of the documents you
> can order.