Its just likely some spam or something sending mail to the listserv and
purporting to come from vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com.  When the listserv gets
the e-mail and doesn't recognize any proper listserv commands it sends an
error message to what it *thinks* is the source address, which is in this
case the list address.

What I don't understand is why there isn't a simple filter in place to drop
messages from the listserv to the list.  When is there a legitimate need for
the listserv to broadcast on the list?

JD

----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Fisher" <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:45 AM
Subject: [VANAGON] Is it just me, or? Re: Your message to
vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM

> I get these all the time... haven't sent a command/request message in
dunno
> when. Pretty sure I'm not on the poop list.
> Any theories? Happening to anyone else?
>
> Cya,
> Robert
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "L-Soft list server at Vanagon List (1.8d)"
> <LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, December 03, 2004 11:01 AM
> Subject: Your message to vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
>
>
> > Fri, 3 Dec 2004 14:01:33
> >
> > Your message  to vanagon-request@GERRY.VANAGON.COM has been  forwarded
to
> > the "list owners" (the people who manage the vanagon list). If you
wanted
> > to reach a human being, you used the correct procedure and you can
ignore
> > the remainder of this  message. If you were trying to  send a command
for
> > the computer to execute, please read on.
> >
> > The  vanagon list  is managed  by  a ListServ  server. ListServ
commands
> > should    always    be   sent    to    the    "ListServ"   address,
ie
> > LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM. ListServ never tries to process messages
sent
> > to the vanagon-request address; it simply forwards them to a human
being,
> > and acknowledges receipt with the present message.
> >
> > The "listname-request" convention originated on  the Internet a long
time
> > ago. At  the time, lists were  always managed manually, and  this
address
> > was defined as an alias for the  person(s) in charge of the mailing
list.
> > You would write to the  "listname-request" address to ask for
information
> > about the list, ask  to be added to the list,  make suggestions about
the
> > contents and policy, etc. Because this  address was always a human
being,
> > people  knew and  expected to  be  talking to  a  human being,  not to
a
> > computer.  Unfortunately, some  recent  list  management packages
screen
> > incoming  messages  to  the  "listname-request" address  and  attempt
to
> > determine whether they are requests to  join or leave the list. They
look
> > for words such as "subscribe", "add",  "leave", "off", and so on. If
they
> > decide your message is  a request to join or leave  the list, they
update
> > the list automatically;  otherwise, they forward the message  to the
list
> > owners. Naturally, this means that if  you write to the list owners
about
> > someone else's  unsuccessful attempts to  leave the list, you  stand
good
> > chances of  being automatically removed  from the list, whereas  the
list
> > owners will never receive your message. No one really benefits from
this.
> > There is no  reliable mechanism to contact a human  being for
assistance,
> > and you can never  be sure whether your request will  be interpreted as
a
> > command or as a message to the list owners. This is why ListServ uses
two
> > separate addresses, one for the people in  charge of the list and one
for
> > the computer  that runs it.  This way you  always know what  will
happen,
> > especially if you are writing in a language other than English.
> >
> > In  any case,  if your  message was  a ListServ  command, you  should
now
> > resend it  to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM. The  list owners know  that
you
> > have  received this  message  and may  assume that  you  will resend
the
> > command  on your  own. You  will find  instructions for  the most
common
> > administrative requests below.
> >
> > +---------------------+
> > |  TO LEAVE THE LIST  |
> > +---------------------+
> >
> > Write to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM and, in the text of your message
(not
> > the subject line), write: SIGNOFF vanagon
> >
> > +--------------------+
> > |  TO JOIN THE LIST  |
> > +--------------------+
> >
> > Write to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM and, in the text of your message
(not
> > the subject line), write: SUBSCRIBE vanagon
> >
> > +------------------------+
> > |  FOR MORE INFORMATION  |
> > +------------------------+
> >
> > Write to LISTSERV@GERRY.VANAGON.COM and, in the text of your message
(not
> > the subject  line), write:  "HELP" or "INFO"  (without the  quotes).
HELP
> > will give you a  short help message and INFO a list  of the documents
you
> > can order.
>