In a message dated 12/11/04 10:55:56 PM Eastern Standard Time,
rrecardo@WEBTV.NET writes:

> The later model lower grill retainer's will require you to drill the
> center's out and the grill will be able to be removed.
> They are  not like the earlier Vanagon's with the plastic / nylon insert
> and then a screw to attach the grill.
>
>

i'll have to disagree with you there Ter...uhh i mean Robert..    :<)
seriously tho, the little clips that you push into the lower grille and then
screw the phillips into - theyre all the same from '83.5 - '91.   and yes you
can re-use them.  no drilling necessary.  (i have a 83.5 van and a 90 van here
for parts and the lower rad grille clips are the same)

chris