That's happened when you send a message without proof reading. ctice means
citicen and line is actually live while the 0 misses the 8 in front.
While I'm here, have all of you a Merry Christmas and a happy new year.

Hartmut

----- Original Message -----
From: "Karl Hartmut Filc" <kfilc@SYMPATICO.CA>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Sunday, December 12, 2004 :19:57 PM
Subject: Re: rare lapel pin on ebay

> I'm German but now I have the Canadian citize ship. We are not allowed to
> have dual citize ship. I line in Canada/Ontario for 20 years ans have a 0
> Vanagon which almost crippled me financial.
>
> Hartmut
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Robert Fisher" <refisher@MCHSI.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Saturday, December 11, 2004 :10:21 AM
> Subject: Re: rare lapel pin on ebay
>
>
>> This is pure speculation on my part, but it occurs to me that the ban may
>> be
>> for contemporary Nazi paraphernalia, not an outright ban- It would be
>> difficult to present and acknowledge an accurate accounting of history
>> without including the various symbols of the time in question. Imagine
>> trying to convey a full understanding the American Revolutionary or Civil
>> wars without including the flags of the times. In other words, perhaps
>> the
>> ban is on things intended to promote, honor or glorify the Nazis, but
>> factual historical representations are allowed.
>>
>> Which brings me, in a roundabout way, to something I was thinking about
>> the
>> other day- there don't seem to be many, if any, Germans on this list- not
>> to
>> mention South Africans, etc. You'd think there would be as many or more
>> Vanagons in some of these other places than there are left here... Are
>> Americans the only ones that have developed a fetish for these things?
>>
>> 'Speaking' of Vgons in other countries... Is it my early-morning
>> pre-coffee
>> brain, or do I recall correctly that Vanagons are still in production
>> somewhere (S.A.?)? Legal hassles notwithstanding, it seems like it would
>> be
>> cheaper and easier in the long run to try to import a new van than to try
>> (and try, and try) to resurrect one that's 20 years old and just getting
>> older (thinking 'green wires' here). Or is it just not possible..?
>>
>> Cya,
>> Robert
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "LOREN BUSCH" <labusch@VERIZON.NET>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Friday, December 10, 2004 11:26 PM
>> Subject: Re: rare lapel pin on ebay
>>
>>
>>>I find the design of the pin interesting, I've never seen one before
>>> (not a real VW buff, just a Westy driver).  What I find the most
>>> interesting is that reproductions are being sold at the VW museum.  The
>>> last I had heard it was against the law to manufacture or sell any item
>>> with the Swastika on it in Germany. (If I'm wrong on that, someone
>>> correct me).  But I wonder if they get around that because the symbol is
>>> only partially reproduced?  And that leads to a second question in my
>>> mind:  Would the original actually have been made with only part of the
>>> symbol showing?  If anyone has good, accurate history on this it would
>>> be interesting.