

| Subject: | Re: Just interesting observation & More Questions |
| From: | Aristotle Sagan |
| Date: | Fri, 17 Dec 2004 11:49:58 -0800 |
Well, first off, I run the Mahle filters on my 84 WB. I use the Delron HD motor oil in it and I still have valve clatter after a couple of days. I also have performance loss at times when that happens. It all goes away in 20 minutes to a half hour of driving. As far as plugs, everybody has an opinion. I use the triple prong 'Bosch Supers'. The van runs well on them, I don't worry about them loading up or anything. Others swear by the original single prong Bosch plugs either in platinum or regular. Others like the 4 prong ones but my van wouldn't run for beans on them. Why? Not a clue. Perhaps a slightly weaker coil or something. I have run NGKs in my 83 aircooled but I'll tell you... it makes nada difference. tim in san jose ----- Original Message ----- From: "Matthew C. Huntley" <matthew.huntley@STRATHBOGIE.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Friday, December 17, 2004 10:41 AM Subject: Re: Just interesting observation & More Questions > Cool! > > Thanks for the clarification. I really appreciate the info. > > What is the best choice for Plugs? I am new to Vanagons, and I want to do > a little bit of a Tuneup this weekend! > > Thanks, > Matt > > The heavier oil restricts flow in the older engines with <ahem> "looser" > > fitting parts, improving overall oil pressure. The original equipment oil > > filters have an anti-drainback valve to prevent the oil from draining out > > of > > the heads and back to the sump. Some of the aftermarket filters either do > > not have this valve, or it is poorly made and allows the oil pressure to > > drain off back to the sump. Dry hydraulic lifters make lots of noise > > until > > they pump back up with oil... > > > > Don in Reidsville, NC > > 1987 Vanagon GL Syncro (Suzie) > > 1988 Vanagon GL (Sylvia) > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Matthew C. Huntley" <matthew.huntley@STRATHBOGIE.NET> > > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > > Sent: Fri 17 December 2004 13:15 > > Subject: Re: Just interesting observation > > > > > >>I am curious, > >> Why does that combination of Oil/Filter fix this? > >> I understand the viscosity of the oil, but what it is with that brand of > >> filter that makes it preferable? > >> > >> Thanks, > >> Matt > >> > >>> John, > >>> > >>> I'm not familiar with the Aircooled vanagons, but it sounds to me like > >>> you have the infamous "Vanagon Clattering Valve Lifter Syndrome.". > >>> > >>> On the water cooled models with the 1.9L and 2.1 L, the clattering > >>> issue > >>> is addressed by using a 20W50ST oil and a Mahle/Mann oil filter > >>> specifically. Not shure that would work but certainly investigating it > >>> would be a worthwhile endeavor. Those are hydraulic lifters in the 81, > >>> so it is very likely subject to the same leakdown problems, which in > >>> the > >>> WBX engines is addressed as above. > >>> > >>> Regards, > >>> > >>> John Rodgers > >>> 88 GL Driver > >>> > >>> Anonymous Digest wrote: > >>> > >>>>Just to pass along something interesting, mine is an 81 air cooled with > >>>>lots of miles on it. Often when it sits more than a few days, it is one > >>>>noisy bugger when I start it up, summer or winter, regardless of the > >>>> oil > >>>>of choice. Lifters or whatever are really loud. > >>>> > >>>>I am used to it, and what I have noticed is that it has sat for about > >>>> six > >>>>weeks outside, on a very slight incline in the driveway, nose up. Not a > >>>>lot of hill, but its enough of an incline to make the basketball games > >>>>interesting..... > >>>> > >>>>Anyway, when I would start it up after sitting on this small tilt, no > >>>>excessive noise, clatter, or banging. Did it about three or four times > >>>> in > >>>>six weeks. Nothing. Sounded just perfect. > >>>> > >>>>I put it in the garage a few days ago for the CV joint adventure, and > >>>> when > >>>>I started it up today, the racket was back, and the clatter was pretty > >>>>intense for about fifteen minutes..... > >>>> > >>>>The oil level is fine, so it almost looks like, in my case, sitting on > >>>> a > >>>>slight incline appears to nearly eliminate the "lifter syndrome" or > >>>>clattering, or whatever one wishes to call it. > >>>> > >>>>Nothing spectacular, but I guess maybe I should get a pair of ramps and > >>>>park it nose up when its in the garage. Can't really leave it out on > >>>> the > >>>>hill, as last year someone shot out the back window.... > >>>> > >>>>Anyway, just something to say that is not related to the CV joints. > >>>><shrug> > >>>> > >>>>John > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>> > >> > >> > >> -- > >> Any opinions stated here are my own, otherwise someone else would have > >> said them. > > > > > -- > Any opinions stated here are my own, otherwise someone else would have > said them. >
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