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Subject:Re: [Syncro] Re: SYNCRO FOR SALE, BAD MOTOR, SEATTLE
From:Aristotle Sagan
Date:Fri, 7 Jan 2005 11:56:04 -0800

Unca joel,

I see you didn't break it down by color? Computer overloaded?

tim in san jose

----- Original Message -----
From: "Joel Walker" <jwalker17@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, January 06, 2005 6:45 PM
Subject: Re: [Syncro] Re: SYNCRO FOR SALE, BAD MOTOR, SEATTLE

> > nearly all of the syncros i see or hear about are 1987's.  why?  did
> > vw make a bunch more that year?  was that a really good year at the
> > factory, and they are more reliable (my secret hope)?
>
> a really good year for sales in the u.s. ... here's what i've gotten
> from the web sales pages (like www.thesamba.com and
> www.traderonline.com and www.ep.com and www.ebay.com
>
> first, just raw numbers by year (percent of total)
> 1986 130 1986 --> 17.4%
> 1987 182 1987 --> 24.4%
> 1988   74 1988 --> 9.9%
> 1989   85 1989 --> 11.4%
> 1990 160 1990 --> 21.5%
> 1991 114 1991 --> 15.3%
>         745 total
>
> so you see that, of all the buses i've seen on the web for sale, 1987
> is the most common. so we can ASSUME that if more are for sale now,
> more must have been sold back then. right? ;)
>
> then, break it down by percent of total and raw numbers of
> transmission type:
>   14.5%       108    syncros of all types
>     0.1%          1    5-speeds, non-syncro
>     41.1%    306     4-speeds of all types
>     40.8%    304     automatics of all types
>     3.5%       26     unknown <ad didn't say>
>
> then break it down by percent of total and raw numbers of model type:
>     1.6%     12 <ad didn't say what it was, and i couldn't tell from
> the photos>
>    28.5%  212 GL
>     5.9%     44 WLE
>     5.9%     44 Carat
>     2.0%     15 Multivan
>     1.9%     14 Camper
>     38.5%  287 Camper GL
>     0.1%       1 Custom Camper (like Adventurewagen or Country Homes)
>     2.6%     19 Syncro
>     4.7%     35 Syncro GL
>     6.6%     49 Syncro Camper GL
>     0.1%       1 Transporter (in Europe)
>
>     0.5%   4 Double-cab Pickup
>     0.7%   5 Syncro Double-Cab Pickup
>     0.1%   1 Hannover Edition
>     0.3%   2 Kombi/Ambulance
>
> and further to amaze and annoy you, break it down by tranny type by
> year ...
>             syncro   other
>            5-spd     5-spd     4-spd      auto      ?<don't know>
> 1986 .....38           0           60          29       3
> 1987......39           0           86          48       9
> 1988........2           1           37          32       2
> 1989........9           0           36          40       0
> 1990......12           0           59          82       7
> 1991........8           0           28          73       5
>   total    108          1         306         304     26
>          14.5%    0.1%     41.1%     40.8%    3.5%
>
> so you see, 1987 was a very good year. ;)
> what i found interesting is that automatic transmission were just
> about even with the 4-speeds. i wouldn't have thought that was true in
> the vanagons. go figure. and look at how the difference between
> 4-speed and automatic changed over the years from 86 to 91.  must be
> why vw started putting only automatics in the eurovans after about
> 1996 or so.  anyway, this is the stuff from that VIN data i collect.
>
> unca joel
> Ophishshal Data Pimp of the Vanagon Lyste!! ;)
>