I camp every summer in my Westy a lot in BLM and FS camp grounds and must say the
solid concrete, pump-out type outhouses, with the tall vent stacks are MUCH better
than the old real pit-types.
Jerry
----- Original Message -----
From: "mark drillock" <drillock@EARTHLINK.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, January 13, 2005 5:00 PM
Subject: Re: Re the insane elevation of camping to a tea ceremony

> This is partly why the subject of stealth camping has come up so often
> on this list over the last several years. It used to be that you could
> travel around most places and find somewhere you could pay a reasonable
> fee to park a Westy for a night or two. The fees at public park
> campgrounds have shot up as you mentioned but the private camps much
> more so.  As more and more places reconfigure their layouts to
> accommodate the behemoths and their need for long pull through spaces, I
> find that I want to camp in those places less and less. I want to camp
> where I can see the sunsets and sunrises without being surrounded by the
> dominating skylines of rolling mansions and their satellite dishes.
>
> For years I tent camped by motorcycle and bicycle. In comparison any VW
> bus that you can sleep in is a luxury. I hope I never get to the point
> where I consider sleeping in a 30+  foot motorhome "camping". Pit
> toilets can be fine but often they aren't. We have carried and used a
> porta-potti  for many years. I recommend the "Sanipottie" brand, by
> Sealand. It is sold at West Marine and Camping World type stores. It
> does not ever smell or leak and is fairly compact. Use the chemical and
> special TP made for this purpose.
>
> http://www.campingworld.com/browse/products/index.cfm?prodID=4465
>
> Mark
>
>
>  Barbara Cotton wrote:
>
> >I used to tent, got tired of tenting in the rain, and
> >upgraded to an 83 Westy about 10 years ago. I agree,
> >camping is not the affordable vacation it once was.
> >With State Parks in Michigan charging anywhere from
> >$17 to $25 per night, the families with small children
> >can't afford to camp any more. The next option down is
> >the State Forest or National Forest campgrounds, but
> >they still run $8-$10 a night with pit toilets.....
> >