Thanks Dennis.  I will bring this up with my tranny guy next week when I return the tranny for the third time.
I had a feeling that the movement of the shifter was telling me something that was probably related to the
growling.

I truly appreciate your comments.  How in the world did you come to know so much about Vanagons?
Are you a factory-trained technician?  You must be, or you must be a factory Trainer.  You are the authority
I look to on the list, bar none.  Thanks for being out there and for being so helpful.

Warren

----- Original Message -----
From: Dennis Haynes <dhaynes@optonline.net>
Date: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:22 pm
Subject: RE: out comes the tranny (again)

> The shifter moving that much in third indicates the gear carrier
> housingis shot. The thrust load is actually pushing the input shaft
> as you
> apply power. It is probably doing it in 4th also but it will not be as
> noticeable as the overdrive ratio doesn't push as hard. This is a
> commonproblem not noticed by many tranny repair folks. This also
> explains the
> growls.
>
> Dennis
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Vanagon Mailing List [vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
> Of Warren Lail
> Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2005 1:51 PM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: out comes the tranny (again)
>
> I have a recurring tranny problem.  It seems that no matter what I
> do, I
> have to take it back out more often than I
> would like.
>
> I purchased a rebuilt tranny back in November.  The tranny growled
> goinginto second gear, and ocassionally
> into 3rd and 4th. So I pulled it out and my tranny guy swapped out the
> synchronizers (got the good German
> ones this time).  Put  the tranny back in, filled it with Redline
> MT-90,
> have driven it about 4,000 miles since then.
> It still growls going into second, sometimes into third, and sometimes
> into fourth.
>
> My shifter linkage is new from end to end.  I have adjusted the
> linkagevia Bently over and over, and have had
> some of my buddies help and double-check my adjustments.  My clutch is
> relative new (13,000 miles) and
> I have bled my clutch slave cylinder.  The clutch appears to be
> releasing just fine.
>
> I have noticed that when I shift to third and release the clutch, the
> shifter moves to the rear by an inch or so.
> There is no movement in any other gear.  My motor mounts are new.  The
> tranny mount is not broken or
> cracked that I can see.  Is this movement within the tranny itself?
> If
> so, what is going on here?
>
> Thanks for your help!
>
> Warren Lail
> 88 Westy "Billy Bones"
>
>
>