The needle type torque wench can be a safer way to get a consistent reading
with a stud that's twisting.and twist they do
The click type can be deceiving if you give it a long slow pull and not the
quick snap it needs. I use the click type
and I use OEM sealants and would not consider changing it works looks neat
and you can argue with the factory

going faster miles an hour with the heat on
I remain
Bob Donalds

----- Original Message -----
From: "Zoltan" <zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: Heads gasket sealant.......( my version)

> Aha!  The first time I have some understanding of why to use the "needle
> type" torque wrench.  It is either the rubber sealant's resistance fading
> or
> the air being compressed inside the nuts and slowly getting out.  I wonder
> if one could wait a day for the sealant to harden up a bit after it was
> torqued to 7.  May not be a bad idea.
> Zoltan
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Michael Knight" <vwdormer@hotmail.com>
> To: <zolo@foxinternet.net>; <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Thursday, January 20, 2005 6:54 AM
> Subject: Re: Re: Heads gasket sealant.......( my version)
>
>
>> >From: "Zoltan"
>>
>>>I did not get it.  What was the reason not to use the clicker?
>>
>>
>>>>I was and I practiced with a "Dry" run before doing them. I now
>>>>understand
>>>>the "don't use the clicker tourque wrench" philosophy. Good thing I had
>>>>my
>>>>old trusty needle wrench.
>>
>>
>> When placing the setting for the torque say at 30 after your initial 7.
>> You begin to go around the head in order setting each nut to 30 by the
>> click. Turn turn turn turn turn turn click...next. What the clicker does
>> not pick up is the release of the torque on the nut possibly due to the
>> sealant. But if you hold a needle type wrench on there and turn turn turn
>> turn turn 30 .....okay ooops wait hold it it is going back down 29 28 27
>> 26 25 24. Keep going turn turn turn turn 30 holding 30. Houston we have
>> 30! Okay knucklehead now go to the next one. This might also be why the
>> Bentley procedure has you torque the nuts down to 7 then 30 then 37 then
>> 37 again, there might be an additional one after that can't remember it
>> was late.
>>
>> I guess you could say that the needle torque wrench gives torque in "real
>> time", as long as you hold it there. You can watch the needle lower even
>> after you have achieved the desired torque the first time.
>>
>> Hope this helps,
>>
>> Michael Knight
>> '77 Westy Deluxe, "el Verde"
>> '85 Vanagon GL, nameless
>>
>>
>>
>