

| Subject: | Re: Vanagon shocks and coils spring |
| From: | Al and Sue Brase |
| Date: | Thu, 10 Feb 2005 12:22:25 -0600 |
Bad ball joint boots can allow the insides to rust and squeak. Surprised me, too! Jack it up and work some grease into the joint to buy a little time. Don't try to buy too much time! I agree about the welding. I've pressed bushings into a lot of American cars a-frames and none of them have felt it necessary to weld the bushings into the arms. I've done a few sets, my 87 about 10 years ago. Okay so far! Al Brase Shawn Wright wrote: >Ball joints may cause play (drifting on the highway, especially at with initial steering >input) and maybe clunking if bad enough, but I can't imagine them squeaking. >Sounds like someone just got the wrong name, but of course, check the ball joints >while you're there. >Believe me - when you see how much force is needed to re-install the upper C-A >bushings, you'll agree that no spot weld is going to make a difference!! > >On 9 Feb 2005 at 21:04, Jaap Nauta <bus.mail@IAE.NL> wrote: > > > >>I'm a bit confused now: in some other article I read that the most >>probable cause for "sweaky" suspension is worn upper ball joint. With a >>description how to remove them similar to the one Shawn wrote. >>So what should you replace, the bushing or the ball joint? >>When changing the bushings, after install you have to secure the >>bushings with spot welds to prevent them from turning (according to the >>Bentley). I don't have welding equipment, so how bad is it when you >>don't do this? >> >>Jaap >>'87 diesel >> >>Shawn Wright wrote: >> >> >> >>>On 9 Feb 2005 at 9:42, The Bus Depot <vanagon@BUSDEPOT.COM> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>>>But...my front and rear coil springs are sweaky. >>>>> -What causes this? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>Most commonly a front suspension squeak is caused by worn upper >>>>control arm >>>>bushings: >>>> >>>>http://busdepot.com/details.jsp?partnumber=251407077 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>Yup. Can be confirmed by spraying WD-40 or similar into the bushings >>>and driving. >>>Don't expect it to last very long, but it can confirm the source of >>>the noise. I sprayed a >>>liquid moly grease in mine for about a year every month of so before I >>>finally replaced >>>them. This was 5-6 years ago, and I only did one side. The other side >>>is still fine. the >>>job can be done without press, but it requires a vise and lots of >>>banging with a >>>hammer. You will deform the old one getting it out, but this can then >>>be used to install >>>the new ones without damaging them. >>> >>>While you're in there - did you install the front upper shock rubber >>>bushings that >>>came with the KYBs? If so, and you have knocking in the front end, >>>this is the cause. >>>I did this, and was told about the problem. I had kept the old >>>bushings (rubber >>>donuts), so I reinstalled them, and knocking is gone. >>> >>>-- >>>Shawn Wright >>>I.T. Manager >>>Shawnigan Lake School >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> > >-- >Shawn Wright >I.T. Manager >Shawnigan Lake School > > >
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