

| Subject: | Re: Just Curious |
| From: | John Reynolds |
| Date: | Sun, 20 Feb 2005 11:10:16 -0800 |
":It drives better than any other I have owned or driven (Dodge, Plymouth, Ford, Chevy, Honda, Nissan, Mazda)" I'll take issue here, owning a Honda van. I test drove a Eurovan and with the heavy discount, I could have had an MV (no pop-top - been on the lot for almost a year) for the same price as the Honda, but it simply did not handle anywhere near as good as the Honda - which is always listed as the best handling mini van in all the comparison tests. Of course the Eurovan is an older design, so that stands to reason. Look at the road tests - no need for subjective opinion here. The main reason for passing on the MV was it's fuel mileage (and VW reliability). 5mpg less than the Honda, especially around town. V6 Passats and other VW's are poor sellers in Europe due to the fuel economy - in the van it is even worse. We felt bad about getting out of car that gets 30+ mpg to a van, so this was an important aspect. I liked the uniqueness of the Eurovan, but ignoring the mileage for the sake of image and style would put me in the same class as the moms I meet who choose a SUV over a mini-van for the sake of style. The other reason I passed is I tried the bed and did not find it comfortable and without the pop-top, we still could not sleep our family of 4 in there - hence we kept the Vanagon and got the Odyssey van. Removing the rear seat / bed assembly in the Eurovan would be a pain - in the Honda, remove the rear head rests and flip the seat into the floor. We do this all the time - it is absolutely great. If you have a van with this feature, you will never get one without it. Add the VW price problem, even after the 5K drop in price and it is no wonder Eurovans have been slow sellers. Also the Eurovan also has only one sliding door. I still like the Eurovan, because it is different. I like the rear facing jump seats - I like the interior. While I did not care for the bed, or the way it folded, I think for a couple travling, the MV would be great. John
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