

| Subject: | Re: Boston Bob Big Valve Update? Not really... (LONG) |
| From: | Bob Stevens |
| Date: | Mon, 14 Feb 2005 22:59:21 -0700 |
Different engine, but very similar symptoms on mine one time on a long hiway trip. I stopped, disconnected the O2 sensor, and it ran just fine from there on. I reconnected it a week later and it's operated just fine since, but that was the variable that made the difference when I lost power at speed, and the more I pressed the accelerator, the slower it wanted to go, until the O2 disconnect. bob ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marc Perdue" <marcperdue@ADELPHIA.NET> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 10:37 PM Subject: Boston Bob Big Valve Update? Not really... (LONG) > Hi y'all, > > I've been away for quite a while, mostly working on my new daily driver, > an '85 BMW 528e, another phenomenal German driving experience, and > attending to my daily life, three full-time jobs in itself. > > Anyhoo, some of you may recall my trials from last summer, when my > engine blew up just after getting an oil change at the dealership here > in Charlottesville, VA. While my traumatic experience couldn't be > directly attributable to any doings on the part of the dealer, you can > rest assured that I will never go back there . . . except maybe to buy > parts I can't get anywhere else. I wound up buying a big valve engine > from Boston Bob Donalds, who was a true gentleman to work with, a man of > his word and a total straight-shooter. I had the van, an '87 Westfalia > w/ AT, towed down to Salem, VA, where the engine was installed by Mark > Deering of Salem Imports. Mark was also a pleasure to work with and has > an encyclopedic knowledge of Vanagons and other transporters. He had > lots of good suggestions of things to do to properly maintain my new > engine, as did Bob. > > Somewhere in this mix of great people, product and service, however, > something didn't quite click right and I'm still trying to figure out > exactly where the problem is. When I went down to pick up the van, I > was surprised at the sound of the new engine. This may be something to > do with the big valves, but it sounded kind of burbly (technical term) > to me. Not knowing what to expect from the big valve engine, I figured > this must be normal, so I headed off down the road. I hadn't gotten two > blocks when I went to accelerate from a stop and had almost no power. I > had had this kind of problem with the old engine and thought it would be > gone with the new one. After all, much had been replaced, with a > complete tune-up, new plugs, rotor, distributor cap, plug wires, other > such things. The fuel injectors were not replaced however; neither was > the AFM. I had, in the previous year or so, replaced the ECU, cleaned > the idle stabilizer valve, and replaced the idle control module. > > I turned around and returned to Salem Imports, where one of Mark's > technicians adjusted something on the AFM and that improved the idle. I > drove home with no further incident. I drove the van no faster than 55 > mph for the first 1,000 miles per Bob's recommendations (and that was no > mean feat, let me tell you), and changed the oil at the recommended > intervals. The new engine has never really had much power, not even as > much as my old engine, but I attributed that to the fact that the engine > was new and the valves probably hadn't seated properly yet. One thing > that was most surprising to me is the drop in torque when the van > shifted from second to third. I found myself downshifting more often > than I had in the past. One surprising benefit was that I was now > getting about 17 mpg on the highway versus the 15 I had been used to. > The low power problem did not re-occur . . . for a while. When summer > ended and the temperatures dropped down into the 60s and 70s, the > problem came back. So did the low mileage, down to about 14 mpg now. > The typical scenario, at first, was like this: I would drive to work, 15 > miles, and the van would run fine. At the end of the work day, I would > start up the van and within a few minutes it would lose power, as if it > were flooded. If I kept my foot in the pedal, the engine would run > progressively slower and then stall. If I pumped the pedal, the power > might come back . . . or not. Sometimes I'd have to pull over, if there > were space to do so, and turn the engine off and back on. It would > usually start back up and run fine after that. When the weather got > colder, the problem seemed to occur less, but I can't say for sure > because the van has mostly been parked and I've been driving my BMW > more. Well, a few weeks ago I had to park the BMW because of a problem > with the rear axle and I've been driving the van every day since. The > problem does seem to be worse when the temperature is between 40 and 70 > degrees. Now it sometimes loses power when I've only gotten a few miles > from home on my way to work. Sometimes, when coming home, I've gotten > ten miles before the problem shows up, usually when I'm going up a hill > and need to downshift to accelerate up the hill. > > This has been very frustrating to me, not to mention dangerous, and I'm > trying like mad to get my BMW back on the road so I can figure out > what's going on with the van and get it fixed before festival season > starts back up. Is any of this directly attributable to the new big > valve engine? I don't think so. My theory is that I've had a bad AFM > all along and this is messing with the idle and causing the engine to > run rich. I also think that Mark, or one of his technicians, didn't > trust Bob's instructions regarding adjusting the valves and that they > didn't set the valves correctly. I think that, as a result, the valves > are probably not closing all the way and this is causing the engine to > run even more richly and to not have as much power as I feel that it > should. The only good thing I can say at this point is that I haven't > driven the van much since the new engine was put in and maybe, just > maybe, no damage has been done. > > I'm hoping that maybe you all can give me some feedback on my theories > and how I might go about troubleshooting these problems. I haven't > adjusted valve lash on an engine in a LONG time, but I no longer trust > any of the local shops to do this, so I'm up for doing this myself. I > might need some guidance in this though. > > Thanks for bearing with me and this long post. I hope you have all been > well and had a great Valentine's Day. > Marc Perdue >
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