>>>Yes, that's what happens when all of the people controlling the economy
are using growth as their model for generating wealth and using wealth
as the ultimate goal for society.  Try convincing everyone in this
country, or more particularly, those in power, that there are things
more important than wealth . . . at least wealth as defined in monetary
terms.  Our country is a long way from understanding value in terms of
anything other than money, for instance, quality of life, being good
global citizens, having a healthy and bountiful ecosystem within which
to live.  I think that those of us that own Vanagons probably have a
head start in this area.  For me, the Vanagon represents a way of being
together with my family in remote locations playing music, relaxing, and
enjoying the environment.  I've been known to take off time from work
without pay to be able to go camping in my van with my family.  A number
of the people I work with don't understand this at all.  It's sad really<<<

Here, here.  Well stated, Marc.

Warren Lail