

| Subject: | Re: gas prices- a canadian perspective |
| From: | Robert Keezer |
| Date: | Sun, 6 Mar 2005 10:41:48 -0800 |
This is an interesting website- running an engine on alcohol- http://www.permaculture.com/alcohol/qualities.htm Robert 1982 Westfalia --- Al and Sue Brase <albeeee@MCHSI.COM> wrote: > Methyl alcohol burns slow and cool and I'd expect > ethyl to do the same. > In straight methanol applications the richness needs > to be increased a > LOT. Some racing type 1 engines using methanol don't > even have cooling > fans (midgets). > It's been years, but it also seems like the need to > light it off at > 45-50 � before TDC, maybe earlier. An air cooled > L-Jetronic engine at 8k > feet is going to be somewhat rich anyway. It seems > like a dose of > alcohol might be just the ticket. > Al Brase > > jimt wrote: > > >On 3/5/05 17:52, "Greg Potts" <Greg@POTTSFAMILY.CA> > wrote: > > > > > > > >>on refineries by about 20%. > >> > >>The bad news is that alcohol as an additive burns > hotter and produces > >>less power than gasoline. My air-cooled buses are > going to hate that. > >> > >>Happy trails, > >> > >>Greg Potts > >>Toronto, Ontario, Canada > >> > >> > > > >I can confirm that with tests I ran with my 82westy > when it had the air > >cooled engine. I intentionally added an additional > 10 percent alcohol to my > >tank for three alternate tank loads with cruising > into the mountains and > >passes above 8k feet. These tanks were then run to > almost empty and refilled > >straight from the pumps. My temps went up at the > head by about the same > >percentage (10 percent). Did not get any real loss > of power though. > >(wasn�t any to begin with) oil temps no change. > Still maxed out. > > > >Crude measuring method was to get two 1 gallon jugs > of alcohol (ethyl) and > >pour 1.5 into tank and then fill with gasoline. > For the next test tank load > >the half jug and a full one. The final test 1.5 > jugs again and poured the > >rest into my daughters jeep tank. (somebody told > her to add some tank dri to > >her tank and she wanted to know if I could do it.) > >........................................ > >jimt > >Planned insanity is best. > >Remember that sanity is optional. > >http://www.tactical-bus.info (tech info) > >http://www.westydriver.com > > > > > > > __________________________________ Celebrate Yahoo!'s 10th Birthday! Yahoo! Netrospective: 100 Moments of the Web http://birthday.yahoo.com/netrospective/
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