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Subject:Re: Vngns ARE junk! Wilder's Law
From:jimt
Date:Sun, 13 Mar 2005 06:41:46 -0700

On 3/13/05 2:32, "Jonathan Farrugia" <jfarrugi@UMICH.EDU> wrote:

> most of the oem plants that i have been in 100%
> parts, that is that every part is 100% inspected.  that is one of the
> reasons between the cost of identical looking parts with the vw label
> scrapped off. 

Not always on cast parts.  The cast parts in some cases are cast with the
parts makers mark and the OEM mark on them or maybe more.  Brake cylinders
and master cylinders are two of the best examples.  The same company, for
instance ATE will cast the VW and their own label on them.  As the open
market part the VW is ground off, if VW sold the VW is left on.  Rebuilders
supposedly are supposed to grind off all markings when rebuilt.  Unless
rebuilt by the brand on them.  I found that out when I called some parts
casters about the case because I had an ATE and a VW master cylinder both
brand new sitting on the counter and realized each had a ground off marking
where the others brand was.  Grabbed a brand new master cylinder for a ford
off of the shelf and went next door to the ford warehouse.  He pulled his
down and sure enough we had opposing ground off spots.  On this casting
there were actually three spots with two ground off.  Turns out this part
would have had Mazda, ford, and the supplier marks on it before the
grinding.  The part that has always bothered me though is the part where
rebuilders are supposed to remove all brand markings.  I wonder how many
cheap knockoffs are coming from that not being done.

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