Joy

feel free to have a glass of red wine on me, i'm having one :).  anyhow
the following statement that i made:

"beyond that stuff if you have a chip on your shoulder about environmental
issues then you might be drawn to the diesel conversion."

was made with tongue firmly inserted in cheek :).  i certainly have an
environmental chip on my shoulder, or at least that is what people tell me
:).  i've always been impressed more by those that lead by example than
those that preach about what to do, so i don't preach to much :).

jonathan
 On Sun, 24 Apr 2005, Joy Hecht wrote:

> Jonathan,
>
> Sorry, I'm not willing to let this one slide.
>
> I don't consider having a realistic concern about the harm we are causing to
> air quality and the world's climate to be "having a chip on your shoulder
> about environmental issues."
>
> Consumption patterns in the US are causing major harm to the whole world.
> Now, not hypothetically in the future.  Most of this country seems unwilling
> to acknowledge that, or seems to feel that their own self-interest outweighs
> any conceivable obligation not to harm other people.  Would that more of
> this country, and perhaps some people on this list, felt a moral obligation
> to keep from causing further environmental harm!
>
>
>
> Joy
>
>
>
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> and Matilda, 1989 Burgundy Vanagon
>
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> :::-----Original Message-----
> :::From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
> :::Of Jonathan Farrugia
> :::Sent: Sunday, April 24, 2005 6:31 PM
> :::To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> :::Subject: Re: Diesel Fuel vs Gasoline
> :::
> :::John
> :::
> :::gas 2.09/19mpg = .11 cents per mile
> :::
> :::diesel 2.26/28 mpg = .08 cents per mile
> :::
> :::not much of a price difference seemingly.  then we look at approximate
> :::fuel costs over a year.
> :::
> :::gas 15000 miles x .11 cents per mile = 1650
> :::
> :::diesel 15000 miles x .08 cents per mile = 1200
> :::
> :::so if you drive that much and you can do a diesel swap for 450 it would
> :::pay for itself in the first year.  it would probably take most people two
> :::years to recoup the cost if they did the work themselves. borrowing a
> :::"line" from the tiico site you can also cut your costs by selling your
> :::good running wasserboxer.  you just have to find someone that thinks used
> :::wasserboxers are worth having :).
> :::
> :::beyond that stuff if you have a chip on your shoulder about environmental
> :::issues then you might be drawn to the diesel conversion.  if you want to
> :::run biodiesel or waste vegetable oil your operational cost might be lower
> :::in dollars and cents depending of the value of your time.
> :::
> :::or you could just be an odd ball like me and want to do a diesel
> :::conversion building everything from scratch and put it in at 15 degrees
> ::::).  it did help that i found a late model 1.6 NA for $125, and that all
> :::the parts i designed for my inline conversion will mount the engine :).
> :::
> :::jonathan
> :::
> :::On Sun, 24 Apr 2005, John Rodgers wrote:
> :::
> :::> Can anyone tell me why one would w3ant to got to the trouble and
> :::expense
> :::> of installing a diesel in their van vs staying with a goline engine????
> :::>
> :::> Gasoline here in my are can be bouth at $2.08.9/gal. , while diesel
> :::> costs $2.25.9/gal.
> :::>
> :::> Sure doesn't look like much incentive for going diesel.
> :::>
> :::> Thanks,
> :::>
> :::> Regards,
> :::>
> :::> John Rodgers
> :::> 88 GL Driver
> :::> Chelsea, AL
> :::>
> :::>
> :::>
>
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