The standard shift starter uses a shaft end bushing in the bell housing. The
starter cannot be properly tested unless you support the drive end of the
starter.
The automatic starter uses a standard bendix that spins out and the starter
has a bearing in the motor end-plate between the starter drive and the motor
part. It can be tested stand alone as the shaft is fully supported.
In short .......... they don't interchange. The armature are built on
completely different shafts. The solenoids are also different with various
connections from one, two or three push on positions for fuel pump and
ignition purposes.

Stan Wilder
Engine Ceramics
214-352-4931
www.engineceramics.com

----- Original Message -----
From: "Cary Chiang" <ccc1@VOLNY.CZ>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2005 7:44 PM
Subject: Differences between auto & manual starters?

> Hello Listees:
> I know that the starters from an automatic and a manual
> transmission waterboxer starter are different, mounting-wise, but
> was wondering if the high-wear items such as the solenoid, and the
> motor itself, are interchangeable?  If I had one type that was not
> working, would there be a good chance that I could use parts from
> the other type to repair it?  Thanks in advance!
>
> Cary
>
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