Out of curiosity I was just looking that up myself because I remember it all
got pulled from the shelves when I was working at a local flaps a couple
years back with an executive order by the state.(colorado) and we had to log
it in the freon log.  It was eventually sent back to corporate in a recall
bin sealed with accountability logs like for freon.

Found this link
http://www.epa.gov/ozone/snap/refrigerants/hc-12a.html

It appears duracool changed their formula and lost their certification from
the EPA.  This probably muddied up their brand name real bad.

But I show them to now be on sale again with their original formula but by a
license holder and under the HC-12a approved name.

http://www.foxtoolsupply.com/HC-12a.htm

8 bucksUS can or 6 bucks US can by the case.

jimt

On 5/25/05 6:58 AM, "Christopher Gronski" <gronski@GMAIL.COM> wrote:

> Anyone know which states allow Duracool? Anyone else using this stuff?
>
> Chris
>
> On 5/25/05, Vanagon <vanagon@astound.net> wrote:
>> You will loose 20percent cooling efficiency with anything but R-12,
>>
>> All of the alternatives to R12 are 134 mixes.
>> NONE are as good as putting in R12 in terms of cooling or reliability to the
>> original system
>>
>> Much info on the net is available on this.
>>
>> STAY with R12 if you have an R12 system at all costs.
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Kim Brennan" <kimbrennan@MAC.COM>
>> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 24, 2005 8:13 PM
>> Subject: Re: all my R12 is gone..? (bummer)
>>
>>
>>> A properly working AC system in a late model (86 and later) Vanagon (or
>>> Westy) will cool you quite sufficiently (I've traveled across the
>>> country, California, Arizona, Texas, Florida. If your system was not
>>> cooling sufficiently on R12 you need to find out why before you start
>>> exploring alternatives. At this date, I'd suggest taking it to a
>>> qualified service facility and 1) have them check it for leaks, if
>>> they find them and 2) fix the links. If you live in a state where shops
>>> can use Duracool, I'd have the shop convert your system to Duracool. If
>>> you don't live in such a state, have them convert your system to R134,
>>> then evacuuate the system, and get Duracool yourself and put it in.
>>>
>>> My Westy's AC can work so well that you'll need a sweater in the front
>>> seats. I only have it functioning at full blast for a few minutes after
>>> getting into a  parked car, then I have to turn the fan down and lower
>>> the thermostat. And I have a dark westy (Burgundy) with a dark roof.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 24, 2005, at 6:53 PM, honemastert wrote:
>>>
>>>> Curious as to what others in hot climates have done,
>>>> and or 'are' doing.
>>>>
>>>> Tried to make sure that all through the winter months,
>>>> I fired up the A/C from time to time.  Keep the system
>>>> lubricated, keep that precious and 'expensive' R12 in
>>>> the system.   My plans seemed to be working, until
>>>> we hit record highs last week in the 'Valley of the Sun'
>>>> (should be fire BTW.. but I digress! :-)
>>>>
>>>> Anyways, now I have an A/C system that seems
>>>> to be cycling on properly, but no cool air (or at least
>>>> very little) to speak of.
>>>>
>>>> Need to get the system checked out for leaks, etc,
>>>> but wondered what the consensus was for a 'Westy'
>>>>
>>>> Even on R12, this system is nothing to write home
>>>> about,  I'm thinking of just checking, make sure I have
>>>> no 'massive' leaks, then go and get my EPA license
>>>> so I can buy cans of R12 off of ebay.
>>>>
>>>> Some folks I've talked to say that even with an 'all
>>>> new' system (compressor, hoses, dryer, cleaned out
>>>> condenser etc) that the most you can expect is 2-4yrs
>>>> between recharges?
>>>>
>>>> Ideas, suggestions welcom
>>>>
>>>> TIA
>>>>
>>>>  -tim
>>>>
>>>> 90 syncro westy
>>>> mesa, az
>>
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