hi 

there is a tremendous difference between inflatable and foldable
kayaks and canoes - two different animals. klepper, pakboat and ally
are foldabes, ie they have frame and skin. they can have similar
in-water qualities as hardshell boats. inflatables though are much
slower and can be really annoying on lakes if you have to cover
distances. inflatables start at $50 and go up to around $1500,
foldables can be anywhere between $1000 to $2500(canoe) or
$5000(kayak)
maybe we should move to pm or a boat list though.....

florian

On 5/28/05, Max Wellhouse <maxjoyce@ipa.net> wrote:
> A friend of mine paddled the North Sea back in the 50's in an old Klepper T-8.
> 
> DM&FS
> 
> At 09:15 AM 5/28/2005, A. Hurley wrote:
> >I've tried to contact Ralph too lately but it bounced. Have a new
> >folding kayak called First Light - the bag fits on the upper luggage
> >area with room to spare!Made from carbon and urethane...
> >
> >I also used to lead trips in double Kleppers back in the 80's....
> >
> >Andree
> >
> >On Sat, 28 May
> >2005, Joy Hecht wrote:
> >
> > > It's called a folbot.  A kayak list would be a better place to look
> > than a vanagon list.  But even easier than that, just email Ralph Diaz,
> > whom I've copied on this email.  He used to publish the Folding Kayaker
> > Newsletter and knows pretty much everything there is to know about
> > folding kayaks of all kinds, German and otherwise.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > Joy
> > >
> > > ****************************************************************
> > > Joy Hecht
> > > and Matilda, 1989 Burgundy Vanagon
> > >
> > > For musings about life and the vanadventures:
> > > http://users.rcn.com/jhecht/gypsy
> > >
> > >
> > ****************************************************************:::-----Original
> > Message-----
> > > :::From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM] On Behalf
> > > :::Of No Name Available
> > > :::Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2005 9:27 AM
> > > :::To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> > > :::Subject: Re: Traveling lighter... a goal... Kayak carriers, Lake
> > > :::Superior?
> > > :::
> > > :::Hi All,
> > > :::Back in the day, a long long time ago, in world, galaxies away....
> > > :::I started kayaking in what was called a fold boat.
> > > :::German made, I think?
> > > :::Fit into one or two small packages.
> > > :::Anyone on the list remember these?
> > > :::John C...
> > > :::
> > >
> >
> >Andree Hurley
> >Viewit.com, Onwatersports.com
> >Store Update:
> >http://www.viewit.com/Merchant2/merchant.mvc?
>