

| Subject: | Re: Hi-Power TDI Vanagon observations |
| From: | Zeitgeist |
| Date: | Tue, 31 May 2005 18:31:20 -0700 |
I'll offer some further comfirmation of the cooling effectiveness of a larger IC. I recently added a moderately large IC to my Mercedes OM603 (6 cyl turbodiesel) and bumped up the full load fuel quantity screw in the injection pump--more fuel. In theory, this modification delivers close to 180hp, up from 148 stock horsepower. My pre-turbo EGTs never exceed 1050F, no matter how hard I flog it up hills or during WOT runs @ ~110mph. A friend of mine with a stock OM603 routinely runs over 1200F (pre-turbo) climbing hills and has seen 1450F during a hard 1/4 mile run at the dragstrip. I bet if you could locate those Vanagon tdi intercoolers into some serious airflow, or add water/methanol injection to the intake stream, those EGTs would decrease that much more. My 2 pfennigs. On 5/31/05, Martin Jagersand <jag@cs.ualberta.ca> wrote: > Hi David, > > Your hi powered TDI observations are quite interesting. Especially > that you can keep it cool enough despite the increased power. > > FYI: My 1.9TD has nearly the same EGT readings: around 400C > at 100-110 km/h highway and up to 800C in long hard climbs. > > Jake Russell who was active on the Diesel list several years > ago found that there was a direct coupling between EGT change > and intercooler efficiency. Ie at 15psi boost the post turbo > temp is often in the 100C range. Using an oversized intercooler > (Jake found that the Audio 5000 one worked quite well, but it's > a lot bigger than the TDI one), the post IC temp can be brought > to almost ambient (e.g. 20C). Then measuting EGT with and without > intercooler the EGT dropped nearly the same amount as the intake temp. > > I tried to put the big Audi 500 IC in my Vanagon setup, but it > is a tight squeeze, and I never found a good reliable solution. > (Same setup as yours with IC behind drivers side tail light). > > I was curious if you have before and after IC temps for different > boost pressures and airflows through the IC? > > How do you wire your IC fan? Always on? Or temp controlled? > At highway speeds does it need to be on? (I'm thinking there might > be a pretty good airflow through the air channel anyway) Casey Biodiesel: '87 300TD intercooler (205k) '84 300D (201k) Gasser: '89 Vanagon Wolfsburg Edition (184k) Olympia, WA
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