At least this is Fryday stuff.

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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Mark Cumnock
Sent: Friday, June 03, 2005 3:26 PM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: (fryday stuff)Top 20 Why Reasons Round headlight vans are
better

Top 20 Why Reasons Round Headlight Vanagons Are
                   Better.

        Contrary to what Gowesty states...hee hee my little jab there...

#20 Chicken S#*#^ Brown Interiors are easier to keep clean than Pansy
 Grey. (Remember you bought the van to camp in.)
The brown interiors do not need cleaning as they often rip or tear
before getting soiled!

#19 You can actually see the road with the round headlights at night.
I agree with this one!

#18 They can have a real middle seat, instead of the turned around
get car sick jump seat/ mother-in-law seats.
True, but the camper is not really usable with this seat in place. The
rear jump seat from a Carat works much better!

#17 1.9 liter motors don't throw a rod like a 2.1
The 1.9 engines do not last long enough to throw rods and the  cases are
rarely rebuildable anyway. At a minimum they will need align boring.

#16 Cheaper on the market so you have more money to spend on the same
 problems a Square headlight van will have.
Less value later also!

#15 Coolant hoses are easier/ simpler to change including the metal
coolant  pipes. Most don't have a bleeder valve that doesn't work
anyway. I.e.  useless. And if you don't like coolant you could get it
air-cooled!!!
More susceptible to coolant vapor problems, no oil cooler.

#14 Some even came with Diesels, how cool is that and most Diesel
owners fill  their van up by marking their calendar.

#13 You can get a Wolfberg GL model with a Stove and Frig.

#12 With round headlights you are halfway done on converting the grill
to a  cool South African look. Meanwhile "squares" are looking on Ebay
for  lights.

#11   You can drive across the country with antique car tags on your
van, while it  is more reliable than any soccer mom SUV will ever be in
20 plus years.
Most states require 25 years or older for antique tags or insurance.
Then you can't drive it where and when you want!

#10 (Bonus for you Vanagon Geeks)Use can use a Digitool with a Digijet
 system and not have the Digifant (Idle Stabilization Valve)
trouble.
Idle stabilization done by tweaking the ignition timing?

#9  ( Another Bonus for you Vanagon Geeks out there) Round headlights
 don't  have the plastic inserts in the coolant system that are
time activated  for you summer vacation to go bad.
Metal lines just rust and get pin hole leaks or break!

#8        1.9 Liter rebuilds are cheaper to obtain because they have an
intact  crankcase (See #4)
Cheaper cause at replacement time, everyone wants the 2.1!

#7   Later model "squares" came with an updated transmissions, that
have  updated gears that don't break. The point is moot with a van with
200,000  plus miles on it don't ya think?
True-most have been rebuilt or will need it anyway!

#6      Some "squares" could come with a Syncro conversion so you can
really  stick you van in the mud and give it body damage..when's the
last
 time you really needed a 4x$   .the $ wasn't a typo by the way.

#5 You could get a solid yellow, two -tone or metallic with real
metal  bumpers. Instead of the take out a loan and go to the dealer
fiberglass  bumpers.
The metal trim pieces are not really bumpers either.

#4 Most rounds have the bottom sag that gives it the cool West Coast
Bling- Bling look.

#3 Didn't come with Power Mirrors , when is the last time you really
adjusted  your mirror.
When was the last time a manual mirror stayed where you placed it at 65
mph?

#2 They didn't come with Power Windows that are rain activated not to
roll up  during a sudden monsoon.

#1 And the the number one reason round headlight Vanagons are
 better....1.9 liter heads leak just as good as the 2.1 liter heads

Thank ya Thank ya verrrrrry much.....van-elvis has left the buliding....