Add profit and labor if having a shop do the work.

Dennis

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From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf
Of Jim Felder
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 9:40 AM
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Re: Replacing Lifters

On Jun 6, 2005, at 8:50 PM, tabe johnson wrote:

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> Cost:  8 spring loaded tubes + 8 lifters = big $$$ (I'm guessing more
> than $500)
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Tabe;

Are these dealer prices? Bus Depot lists the lifters at $9.95 = $80,
and the expandable tubes at $19.95 = $160 for a $240 total. I assume
other vendors would be about the same but haven't looked.

I may be missing something?

Jim

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>> Date:    Sun, 5 Jun 2005 13:45:10 -0600
>> From:    Anonymous Digest <jbrush@AROS.NET>
>> Subject: Replacing Hydraulic Lifters
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I have been away for a while, but am back to wanting to use my van a
>> bit
>> more. Mostly, it just sits for reasons that are probably not
>> important.
>> When I do start it up after a week of sitting, wow!, the lifters are
>> really noisy.
>>
>> I posted a long story a while back about this, so I won't fill the
>> archives with more useless information. I am considering a new motor,
>> or
>> rebuilding it as the only long term solution, but also would not mind
>> keeping it just as it is if only the lifters did not take half an
>> hour to
>> pump up when I want to use the van. My plan has always been to run
the
>> engine as many miles as it will take me, always mentally ready to
deal
>> with the failure when it finally gives up. It is hard to bring myself
>> to
>> tear apart or replace an engine that, but for the lifters, seems to
>> run
>> just fine. Kind of like cutting out a healty appendix <g>
>>
>> I have dutifully searched the archives, and do not see much specific
>> information on what is involved in replacing them. I see a lot of
>> people
>> with the problem :-) but few posts actually addressing the "how to"
>> so I
>> am here hoping to get some first hand details on the job, or find a
>> link
>> to the procedure. Boston Bob has some info on lifters, but not any
>> steps
>> on how to replace them with the engine still in the van.
>>
>> I believe I know which ones are the culprit, or at least the loudest
>> offenders, and it seems to be the drivers side, most rear cylinder
>> (don't
>> know the numbers) This is not a thing where MMO will help, or an oil
>> filter issue, as I have progressed beyond those to where I am pretty
>> sure
>> the lifters have had it.
>>
>> In the archives, I see the words "destroy" the pushrod tubes, and
>> other
>> intimidating comments <g> and so I seek info and details before
>> proceeding. I also read things about these lifters that I do not
>> understand, relative to all the ones I have replaced on big old V8
>> style
>> engines. I guess the VW ones are quite a bit different in how they
>> pump up
>> and are adjusted?
>>
>> I would really appreciate hearing from anyone who has done this job,
>> especially with the engine in the van, or at least with the heads
>> still
>> attached, while on a bench.
>>
>> It would seem to be a fairly straightforward, hard to get at, kind of
>> repair, but I have thought that before and been quite wrong :-)
>>
>> I also have the crazy thought that maybe I could just adjust them
>> down a
>> bit and see if that helps, but that is rather unscientific, and the
>> fact
>> is, that the engine runs just fine when they finally quiet down, so I
>> figure an adjustment might make upset the way the engine runs. Is it
>> a bad
>> idea to try and tighten them down a bit as a first thing to try?
>> Would new
>> lifters be a detriment to the cam, seeings as to how old the engine
>> is?
>>
>> Thank you all for your help and assistance.
>>
>> Best Regards,
>>
>> John
>>
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