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Subject:Re: Danger - Jump Starting with AC on !
From:Daniel L. Katz
Date:Fri, 17 Jun 2005 23:41:57 -0400

while obviously good practice to minimize electrical load on both vehicles
for either boost or true jump start, AC on was probably a mere correlation
rather than cause and effect - else belts flying would also happen with AC
on in car doing the jumping!

AC and blower bypassed on most cars during cranking anyway.

On Wed, 15 Jun 2005 05:34:11 EDT, Frank Condelli <RAlanen@AOL.COM> wrote:

>Just a note of warning, since we have a recent  thread of AC going on.  Do
>not attempt to jump start a van with a dead  battery with a van with the AC
>running.  Why, just listen to this  one.  Sunday as BusFusion is winding
up a
>woman with an '84 Vanagon  has a dead battery.  The battery was brand new
from
>Canadian Tire which her  son brought up to the Fairgrounds to replace her
tired
>and worn out  battery.  Why the new one was dead is still not known.
However,
>as  myself and a few friends try to jump start her van using my CARAT with
my
>friend  Simon at the helm of the CARAT keeping the RPMs around 3000 and I
at
>the helm of  the '84, we hear a loud bang and clanking sounds from the
CARAT's
>engine  compartment and the engine locks up as if it seized.  What
happened ?
> Well, quite the mess, the alternator locked up from being over loaded
trying
>to  maintain the AC, front fan, whatever else was running and trying to
>charge the  dead battery.  When the alternator locked up it threw the belt
which
>took  the other two belts with it, which in turn took the dipstick tube and
>wrapped it  around the pulley which in turn grabbed the coolant hose/pipe
>connection behind the pulley and ripped that out spewing all the hot
coolant out on
>the ground.  Clean up and repair still in progress.   Engine seems to have
>survived.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Frank  Condelli
>Almonte, Ontario, Canada
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>camping event, Almonte, ON, June 09 ~ 12, 2005
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