In most cases the large line is the suction or low side and the high side
will be the small line.

Stan Wilder
Engine Ceramics
214-352-4931
www.engineceramics.com
----- Original Message -----
From: "A. Hurley" <ahurley@VIEWIT.COM>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 1:00 PM
Subject: Re: A/C - Freon to R134 conversion

> Hi,
>
> We are in the process of trying this method but are a bit hung up on
> which is the low and high fitting?
>
> Is the fitting  that is lower and closer to the engine the lower
> fitting?
>
> There is one that goes to the center of the compressor and one that
> leaves from the side - which is the low side? (I'm choosing the lower
> one but we are having a discussion...).
>
> Hopefully someone sees this soon as we are all set to jet!
>
> Thanks,
>
> Andree
>
> On Tue, 28 Jun
> 2005, Ken Wilford
> wrote:
>
> > I have done the 134a conversions in many Vanagons with the full monty
> > (compressor, new hoses, new dryer, new expansion valve, new o-rings and
> > oil, flushing everything out, new fittings, etc) and have just had
> > Vanagons that used to have R-12 in it and it is like a can or two low,
> > and just added 134a to the van.  Both work.  If the compressor is bad or
> > the system isn't working right to start with the full monty version is
> > the way to go.  If the van was running cool just last summer and isn't
> > this year, you could probably get away with the "add some R134a to the
> > system" option.
> >
> > Example:
> > I bought an 89 Wolfsburg last summer in Georgia that had been off the
> > road for a couple of years.  I brought my tools down and had it up and
> > running in a matter of a couple of days, but it was hot and I wanted A/C
> > as well.  It wasn't working and I couldn't bring my A/C tools down to
> > Georgia with me.  So I went to Wal-mart, and bought a charging kit that
> > came with a couple of cans of 134a, some conversion fittings and a
> > charging hose.  I think it was around $30.  Plus a couple additional
> > cans for good measure.  Added a can and the compressor came on.  Two
> > cans and a half and the A/C was blowing very cold.  Drove the van for
> > the rest of the summer and the A/C worked very well.
> >
> > Just my experience,
> > Ken Wilford
> > John 3:16
> > www.vanagain.com
> >
> > Stan Wilder wrote:
> >
> > >I  can't believe that you guys are getting such a fleecing on A/C
parts.
> > >I bought new hoses matching my old hoses for $220.00, New suction valve
> > >$28.00, New Dryer about $32.00 and added that under car condenser (I
already
> > >had it). I replace the seal in my compressor for $15.00. Bought ester
oil
> > >for the compressor for $6.00 for 6 oz. and bought 12 cans of 134 from
Sams
> > >club for $16.00.
> > >The system only took 2 and a half 12" cans for a good charge.
> > >I borrowed an evacuation pump but could have rented one for $10.00
> > >I really think you could screw up many times attempting to do it
yourself
> > >before you ever get to the $1500.00 tag.
> > >
> > >
> > >Stan Wilder
> > >Engine Ceramics
> > >214-352-4931
> > >www.engineceramics.com
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "Mike Miller" <mwmiller@CWNET.COM>
> > >To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> > >Sent: Tuesday, June 28, 2005 6:05 PM
> > >Subject: Re: A/C - Freon to R134 conversion
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >>Had it done. I'm into the whole thing about 1500 dollars and it cools
kind
> > >>of. Still need the long hoses from front to back so I keep refilling
it
> > >>
> > >>
> > >with
> > >
> > >
> > >>134
> > >>
> > >>Mike
> > >>
> > >>On 6/28/05 1:43 PM, "David M" <covrambles@YAHOO.COM> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>>http://www.gti16v.org/tb879503.htm
> > >>>Has anyone had their Vanagon's a/c professionally
> > >>>converted (as in above link) from R12 to R134 and how
> > >>>much should it cost?
> > >>>My Vanagon's A/c used to work well, now it does not
> > >>>blow cold at all. I'm now in Phoenix, AZ so the van is
> > >>>virtually unusable from May till October because of
> > >>>this since its 100+ degrees every day.
> > >>>Whan I bought my van the previous owner had had the
> > >>>a/c recharged at a VW dealer and it cost $450. Thats
> > >>>why I would like to convert to R134, I figure the cost
> > >>>of frean will kill me.
> > >>>
> > >>>PS. I just had the a/c repaired in my 1995 Mercury
> > >>>Sable and it cost $1900, mostly in labor since they
> > >>>had to remove the dash and steering column to get to
> > >>>it.
> > >>>-
> > >>>David, 87 Wolfsburg
> > >>>
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