Keith, the much stiffer later transaxle mount can be retrofitted to the
earlier vans and in my 84 has cured the throttle-on lurch or rubber-banding
that used to make me crazy. Of course the 84 has 205,000 miles on the
bushings. Jake
----- Original Message -----
From: "Keith Ovregaard" <kovregaard@COMCAST.NET>
To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: clutch shudder?

> Will
>
> My 84 Westy has had that same shudder for years and I had a new
> clutch/pilot bearing and resurfaced flywheel done only about 35K mi.
> ago (although it was in 1996). It's sort of annoying, but has not
> gotten worse. I wonder if the motor/trany mounts might have something
> to do with the shuddering. I noticed that my 90 Syncro mounts are
> really stiff, but my 84 Vanagon has a lot more wiggle when I try to
> move the motor back and forth. Think about it. When you let out the
> clutch, torque is applied to the drive train and the engine wants to
> twist. If slop in the mounts allows too much twist, the mounts can act
> like a rubber band and spring back which could set up an oscillating
> shudder until the clutch is fully engaged. My 2 cents: check into the
> mounts before spending a lot of $$ on a new clutch, etc.
>
> Keith O
> 84 Westy "Brownie" Solar Charged Camper
> 90 Westy Syncro (No name yet for the pastel white box)
>
>
> On Aug 2, 2005, at 10:55 AM, Wil Haslup wrote:
>
> > Mike Collum wrote:
> >> Hi Wil,
> >>
> >> I'd say it's clutch time ... and while you're there you should replace
> >> the engine seal and pilot bearing along with having the flywheel
> >> resurfaced.  Of course you'll replace the throwout bearing and you
> >> should either true up the release fork or replace it along with
> >> checking/replacing its bushings.  Replacing the input shaft seal in
> >> the
> >> transmission is another must do as far as I'm concerned.
> >>
> >> While it's all out ... replacing the starter bushing is a very good
> >> idea, too.
> >>
> >> Mike
> >> Houlton, Maine
> >
> > Thanks for the many responses both on and off list.
> >
> > I expected as much.  I usually do most of the work on my Vanagon but
> > I'm
> > going to have to have this done.  What's the typical price tag.
> >
> > At the moment I only have the shudder starting from a stop in first.
> > When shifting at speed into 2nd, 3rd, or 4th there is none and I can't
> > say I've noticed it in reverse.  Does this mean I've got some time or
> > is
> > that wishful thinking?
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Wil
> >
> >
> > -- http://www.charmfx.com/
> >
> > "In action a great heart is the chief qualification. In work, a great
> > head."
> > -- Arthur Schopenhauer
> >
> >
>