I think a lot of EV owners aren't interested in being part of the van/bus
family because their vans work okay and they don't need the mechanical
supports that the lists provide.  They miss out on the friendship and
community as a result, and similarly don't see why people would expect them
to be instant friends just because of the vehicle they drive. 

But there are some EV owners who are part of the community, come to van/bus
events, and are totally nice.  I've met plenty!

I don't think most of the unfriendly ones are deliberately being snobs or
unfriendly - they probably don't even know this community exists and it
wouldn't occur to them that we'd expect them to help out or wave to us. 
The ones who are part of our community started with buses or vanagons, so
they know we're hear and want to be part of the family.

Just my two cents...

Joy

Original Message:
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From: Zoltan zolo@FOXINTERNET.NET
Date: Wed, 24 Aug 2005 11:07:56 -0700
To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
Subject: Euro Highness ...

I share the same feelings and intention what Stan has.  I also have to add
that between the older and newer van owners, the bread loaf, vanagon,
eurovan, I sense a kind of caste system.  The new ones may look down on the
old ones and the old ones envious of the new.  Now, this may not be accurate
and applicable to all, of course.  But this is some natural reaction as it
is between poor and wealthy.  I don't think, I am alone to have this
feeling.

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