Good points. I'll tell you another good thing about them, that I forgot
about, that may redeem them: their website has a section that provides
the truth about SUVs to people considering buying them. It's great.

It's just odd that while they're not shills for detroit iron and
japanese pocket rockets and SUVs like the magazines unashamedly are,
they seem to think a 62 valiant is the best car ever. You'd think
they'd have a little more heart for enthusiast cars like the vanagon.

Jim

On Aug 22, 2005, at 9:33 AM, Donald Baxter wrote:

> I think that one must remember that the phenomenon of Tom and Ray
> stopped having much to do with cars a LONG time ago.  I cringe when i
> hear some of the advice they give people on the technical side of car
> mechanics.
>
> What I do like about them is that the try to encourage people to
> operate cars responsibly (important to me since i spend much more time
> on foot and bike than I ever do driving) and environmentally.  Well,
> and, since i work in public radio... they help us raise a lot of money
> since it's the most listened to non-news show on public radio.
>
> db
>
> On 8/21/05, Jim Felder <felder@knology.net> wrote:
>>>
>>> Ray and Tom just dont get the vanagon thing.
>>>
>>> Doug
>>
>> No, they don't. I head them trashing vanagons some years back (must
>> have been 90 or 91) saying to "forget about buying the vanagon, VW is
>> coming out with a car called the Eurovan that is light years ahead of
>> the vanagon. It will be worth waiting for."
>>
>> That was the momement I lost all respect for them (actually it was
>> delayed til I saw my first Eurovan).
>>
>> What's you're "Ray and Tom moment?"
>>
>> Jim
>>
>>>
>>
>
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