

| Subject: | Re: Vanagon running on vegetable oil |
| From: | Karl Wolz |
| Date: | Fri, 26 Aug 2005 10:01:46 -0700 |
There's a station here in Phoenix that has a veggie oil pump. Nice for the environment, but it's more expensive than diesel. Karl > -----Original Message----- > From: Vanagon Mailing List [mailto:vanagon@gerry.vanagon.com] On Behalf Of > Stan Wilder > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 6:58 AM > To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM > Subject: Re: Vanagon running on vegetable oil > > Don't get misled by people that tell you veggie oil or used fry oil is free. > A good 70% of the oil used for cooking in America has been reprocessed > several times over it's useful life. > Companies like Frito Lay aka Kentucky Fried Chicken and every other national > chain have contractors that pick up the oil at their locations and reprocess > it. > The oil might not come directly back to them but it does get reprocessed and > resold. > Before you make long range plans on a Bio Diesel you better check out your > local fuel supplies because you may still be paying for Diesel. > > Stan Wilder > Engine Ceramics > 214-352-4931 > www.engineceramics.com > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Christopher Gronski" <gronski@GMAIL.COM> > To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM> > Sent: Friday, August 26, 2005 8:32 AM > Subject: Re: Vanagon running on vegetable oil > > > This article was in my local (London Ontario) newspaper the other day, > its veggie oil Jetta... engine conversion anyone???? > > David Marshall at www.fastforward.ca has mentioned a heated tank > (under the sliding door) a couple of times, but I'm not sure if it is > for sale yet. > > Chris > > Car hums on used vegetable oil > > Gary Clark's vehicle smells like french fries but that's a small price to > pay. > > BRIAN CLEEVE, Special to the Free Press > 2005-08-24 02:14:54 > > CHATHAM -- Whenever Gary Clark is low on fuel, he steers his > Volkswagen toward a nearby restaurant for a tank of free vegetable > oil. > > His car smells like french fries -- which he figures is a smaller > price to pay than the cost of diesel fuel. > > And, although the 38-year-old Chatham-area farmer spent $1,500 making > the mechanical conversions to his 1997 Jetta, he expects to save that > much in fuel costs within 40 weeks. > > "That's if the price stays the same (93.9 cents for diesel as of last > week). If it goes up, I'll save even more." > > Clark estimates he had been spending $35 a week on diesel fuel. > > "I like driving by the gas stations and smiling when I see those > people lined up to pay for diesel fuel." > > The changes he's made to his VW, including installing a special tank > in his trunk, are portable and can be put on another vehicle. > > Clark has been using vegetable oil since Aug. 1, after reading an > article about it earlier this year. > > He goes to independently owned and operated restaurants and asks for > any leftover vegetable oil. > > "They have to pay to get rid of the used oil, so they're happy to give > it to me," he said. > > Clark drives about 1,200 kilometres a week, between his job as a > locomotive engineer in Sarnia and personal business in Windsor and > Burlington. > > "I stop at restaurants in those places and ask for the vegetable oil. > I fuel my car and my stomach at the same time." > > His vehicle's engine requires diesel fuel to ignite. But after Clark > has driven about a kilometre, he flips a toggle switch on the > dashboard that allows him to change fuels while driving. > > Clark switches back to diesel fuel just before shutting off his > engine. He still has most of the diesel fuel he put into his 45-litre > tank three weeks ago. > > He has installed a special filter that needs to be kept cleaned. The > vegetable oil goes through the screen three times before being drained > into the special tank in his trunk. > > Keeping the vegetable oil warm is one of the biggest challenges Clark > will face as winter approaches. He's not yet sure how to solve that > problem. > > Al Wissink, service manager at Richmond Motors, Chatham's Volkswagen > dealership, said using vegetable oil won't damage the diesel engine. > > He noted the vegetable oil needs to be heated to about 21 C for it to > be operational. > > But Wissink added that almost any fuel will operate a diesel engine. > > "The only difference here is that he gets it free," said Wissink. > "Otherwise, it wouldn't be worth his while." > > Clark said there are about 20,000 such vehicles in Canada and the > United States. > > Copyright (c) The London Free Press > > On 8/26/05, David Bohannan <fjazzbass@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have heard of diesels being able to run on WVO (waste vegetable oil). > > > > 2 of the major components involved are as follows: > > > > Filtration: The oil needs to sit and sit and sit for a long time for > > the crud to settle at the bottom...then it needs to go thru an > > inordinate amount of filtration...I think there is a website that > > chronicles this > > > > Heat: this stuff needs to be heated to be able to flow thru the > > diesel's lines and injectors, etc...so part of converting to WVO you > > need to heat the WVO tank somehow... > > > > Here is a website that discusses it in detail: > > > > http://www.greasel.com/ > > > > Dave > >
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