Mind you to all who are thinking about buying a new car to conserve 
resources--new *anything* doesn't conserve resources for a long time until 
after the purchase. Think cost-benefit analysis before buying! VW diesels 
(or any other new more fuel-efficient car) are cute and sexy, but it takes a 
long time to cover the initial expenditure. And those cars consume massive 
resources to build in the first place. A new Prius may make the more 
touchy-feely of us feel good, but it seems to me our fuel consumption 
problems are so systemic that they cannot simply be solved by technology.
 And like Joseph, i'm spending a lot of time walking and cycling and looking 
at my Vanagon parked!

 On 9/2/05, Joseph Fortino <fortino1@earthlink.net> wrote: 
> 
> don't say anything but i ride my bike to work alot and save about 50 a 
> week now.. shhhhh
> yup las vegas is nutty to ride in not for all..
> 
> I get great mpg so far.
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stan Wilder <wilden1-1@SBCGLOBAL.NET>
> Sent: Sep 2, 2005 9:21 AM
> To: vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM
> Subject: Re: Maybe now is the time to fill the tank of your extra car or 
> "parts vanagon"
> 
> I've got a 92 Crown Vic and it gets over 18 around town and a 24/25 mpg on
> the highway. Much better than my 83 air cooled Vanagon at 16 -18 mpg 
> highway
> and pretty poor 14-16 around town.
> I'm basing highway numbers on running a legal 70 mph.
> VW beetles and bugs along with Diesels get good mileage not big box 
> models.
> 
> Stan Wilder
> Engine Ceramics
> 214-352-4931
> www.engineceramics.com <http://www.engineceramics.com>
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Roger Sisler" <rogersisler2000@YAHOO.COM>
> To: <vanagon@GERRY.VANAGON.COM>
> Sent: Friday, September 02, 2005 10:35 AM
> Subject: Re: Maybe now is the time to fill the tank of your extra car or
> "parts vanagon"
> 
> 
> > My son went off to college a few days ago. Up till then he had been
> driving
> > a crown victoria(gallons per mile).Now he dosent have to buy gas.Man did
> he
> > ever time the market just right! He is a business major ya know.
> 

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