

| Subject: | Re: OT Hurricanes--really an accident? |
| From: | Robert Keezer |
| Date: | Fri, 23 Sep 2005 23:37:13 -0700 |
How about this article from an 1975 Newsweek: The Cooling World (http://www.globalclimate.org/Newsweek.htm) Robert K 1982 Westfalia water-cooled inline four (brrrr) --- Brendan Coffey <bmc@THEORPHANAGE.COM> wrote: > And, frankly, none of this is the point. Can > we PROVE global warming is > happening? Well, the globe certainly is > warming. Can we PROVE that > hurricanes are getting more severe? Sort of. > Can we PROVE that any of > this is related to human fossil fuel > consumption and emissions? Well, > "prove" is a strong word. > > And all of the > my-god-created-the-universe-and-it's-only-three-hundred- > years-old wackjobs jump up and shout, "Hah! So > you admit it! It's only > a theory!" Uh, yeah. So is gravity. > > Is every ecological system we know how to > measure currently in severe > decline? Yes. Are human activities > significantly destabilizing global > ecosystems? Duh. > > -bmc > > On Thu, 2005-09-22 at 19:26 -0500, Jim Felder > wrote: > > > Wrong. Rush Limbaugh says that > environmentalists say that, but they > > don't say that. > > > > Jim > > > > On Sep 22, 2005, at 7:07 PM, > turbodieseltrooper wrote: > > > > > That's the whole point - environmentalists > says it's global warming > > > just > > > based on the last decade > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "greg crone" <l_levi1@yahoo.com> > > > To: "turbodieseltrooper" > <turbodieseltrooper@SBCGLOBAL.NET> > > > Sent: Thursday, September 22, 2005 10:55 AM > > > Subject: Re: OT Hurricanes--really an > accident? > > > > > > > > >> Your're using two sets of numbers > containing only 50 > > >> units each. The standard deviation makes > the results > > >> useless.........Get 10,000 years on both > sides of the > > >> tech and non-tech eras and then you have > something to > > >> compare. > > >> What you're doing is akin to flipping a > coin 5 times > > >> at night and 5 times in daylight, and > saying the > > >> sunlight caused the difference. > > >> > > >> --- turbodieseltrooper > > >> <turbodieseltrooper@SBCGLOBAL.NET> wrote: > > >> > > >>> >> Global warming is not scientifically > PROVEN, and > > >>> even if it is happening, > > >>> >> so what? We have NO idea why it's > happening. > > >>> > > >>> >Not altogether true. Just like in plague > times, > > >>> there were people who knew. > > >>> >they just didn't have the political > voice to > > >>> convince anyone who mattered. > > >>> > > >>> The ones who claim to know are rarley > chalenged. > > >>> They never admit that they > > >>> are wrong and when proven wrong, they can > only > > >>> resort to name calling. > > >>> > > >>> http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/pastdec.shtml > > >>> > > >>> This shows the number of hurrican strikes > to the US, > > >>> by decade, since 1851. > > >>> I didn't plot it on a graph, but it does > show signs > > >>> of a cycle. The sources > > >>> of greenhouse gases (ie cars) WERE NON > existant or > > >>> small in number (as > > >>> compared to today) from 1851 to 1910. Now > compare > > >>> this to the years 1951 to > > >>> 2004 which has lower numbers?? Facts > don't lie. t > > >>> appears that we are on an > > >>> upward cycle. > > >>> > > >>> > don't think we need to think too much > beyond > > >>> simply lowering > > >>> greenhouse gas output at this point, to > cool down > > >>> what we THINK we've essed > > >>> up while we search for answers in a > scientific > > >>> environment unfettered by > > >>> politics. > > >>> > > >>> It is the poltics of Socialism that > drives the > > >>> global warming crowd. You > > >>> only need to look at the Kioto(sp?) > accord. By it > > >>> own reasearch, it will do > > >>> very little, yet it handicaps the US. > > >>> > > >>> gunslinger13x > > >>> allways outnumbered, never outgunned > > >>> > > >> > > >> > > >> > __________________________________________________ > > >> Do You Yahoo!? > > >> Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best > spam protection around > > >> http://mail.yahoo.com > > > > __________________________________ Yahoo! Mail - PC Magazine Editors' Choice 2005 http://mail.yahoo.com
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