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Subject:Re: OT Hurricanes--really an accident?
From:Andrew Grebneff
Date:Sun, 25 Sep 2005 13:07:25 +1200

>Not altogether true. Just like in plague times, there were people who
>knew. they just didn't have the political voice to convince anyone who
>mattered.

People whoi believe they know do not necessarily 
know... they merely believe they do.

>>One thing
>>geology tells us is that climate is not in equilibrium... it's always
>>swinging. If it's warming now, it's not doing anything it hasn't
>>already done many of times since life evolved.
>
>I'd like to see that evidence, especially as it concerns the water
>temperatures in the gulf of mexico.

The fossil record, for one, shows that warmwater 
faunas have occurred over long stretches of time 
in areas with cool or even cold climates today; 
this is talking about the world in general, not 
just the Gulf of M�xico. In many places warmwater 
faunas are interbedde with coolwater ones, 
indicating that climates warm and cool. And there 
were major glaciations at various times as well, 
in part evidenced by smoother & ice-gouged rocks, 
some of these being hundreds of millions of years 
ago.

At present my boss is working on oxygen isotopes 
in fossil shells and bones; these can be used to 
indicate temperatures and can give a good 
approximation of ice volumes at the times at 
which the animals were living.
--
Andrew Grebneff
Dunedin
New Zealand
Fossil preparator
<andrew.grebneff@stonebow.otago.ac.nz>
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