

| Subject: | Re: Vanagon Syndrome cont... |
| From: | Russ Ottey |
| Date: | Thu, 13 Oct 2005 13:12:54 +0000 |
My suggestion is the two relays - fuel pump and current supply relay. Bentley 24.48. I've replaced both relays twice in my 12 years of ownership on my '90 Westy. First occurence was probably around '96 on a tri Experience was van would run fine and then just stop as if not getting any fuel. Wait awhile and then it would run fine for a while. Not much rhyme or reason. Bought two of the relays(along with a spare fuel pump & filter) after changing the relays NO PROBLEMS. Then about a year and a half ago the engine began to just start stalling while driving for a second or two and then start again while on the freeway. At stop lights a couple of times it would cut out but then restart OK. Again I changed the two relays (they are cheap about $7.00 I think) again NO PROBLEMS. In my '90 it seems thatthose relays have a life of about 6-8 years. I just keep a pair in the van. Russ > Hi All, > > After much testing and head scratching, I continue to be stumped by > this vexing problem on my 90 syncro. It is getting much worse > (frequent) but the engine always works fine until warmed up (enters > closed loop?). > > Symptoms: Starts and runs fine until warmed up and then comes a sudden > loss of power, bucking, and sometimes dies when clutch is in. > Restarting used to cure the problem for a while, but no longer does. > Unplugging the O2 sensor cured the problem for 200 miles, but no longer > does. Holding the throttle above idle produces on-off surging from 2000 > rpm to 4000 rpm. Will not stay at any given rpm except idle. If temp > sensor is unplugged, idle goes up and rpm's rise normally when upping > the throttle. > > Here's what I've done so far: > > Tested the following components with a good digital meter: > AFM-OK before and after cleaning with electronic cleaner, re-tracking > wiper arm, installing capacitor (no effect) > temp sensor-OK, but engine runs fine when unplugged, although with a > fast idle > ECU contacts/wiring-OK > O2 sensor-OK (new) > throttle valve switch-OK but I do not have a feeler gauge that small to > check the gap > idle stabilizer-vibrates > timing-OK, changing to either more adv or ret only makes the engine run > worse > > > Swapped these parts out of a working vanagon: > AFM- no change!!! > ECU-no change!!! > > The following parts were checked, adjusted, cleaned as necessary: > distrib. cap & rotor (new 15k mi. ago), cleaned carbon deposits > plugs (new 15k mi. ago) regapped and cleaned > ignition wires (new 15k mi. ago) appear OK > grounds to engine, tranny, ECU, etc .appear OK > Vac hoses show no obvious leaks using LP gas, visual, but have not > tested with meter > > Not yet fully tested: > Fuel pump (original? no records from PO) makes normal buzzing > Fuel pump relay > Fuel pressure reg > injectors > PS pressure switch > Idle stabilizer control unit > control supply relay > Some vac lines and the vac tank > Fuel filter (new 15k mi. ago) > > Any thoughts, ideas, shoulders to cry on? > > Thanks > > Keith Ovregaard > 84 Westy "Brownie" Solar Charged Camper FOR SALE! > 90 Westy Syncro
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