FYI
Just a followup so others know
The old 70's ford chrome window cranks with the philips screws
esp,  the ford econoline van do work
 **BUT**
-the standard vanagon screw is too short & the head is to fat
to fit the crank recess
so you have 2 choices
a) find another  screw say 1/4" longer with smaller head
or
b) counter sink the face of the crank *AND* hack saw off
2/16" of the crank on the side that fits the gear on the door

I went option b & these cranks clear my speaker grills by at lease 1/4" :)
(I do admit i did lean on the crank in the vice for a bit extra:)

> > > > I recall seeing a post here from some one who found some after
market
> > > > window
> > > > winder that are slightly raised to clear the car speakers that
> > > > are  mounted in the doors
> > > >
> > > > anyone with a url to those window winders ??
> Ok not quite what i was recalling but I found this old post about
> ford handles that fit & give 3/4" of clearance
> http://gerry.vanagon.com/cgi-bin/wa.exe?A2=ind0310C&L=vanagon&P=R14681